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Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:13 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting armegon: turkish people are not ungrateful...OK? |
Ungratful ?!!!
İts your LİFE !
Ok,i gave up ,world is a lovely place to live in  |
If there is not a leader like Kemal Ataturk then there is not a country called Turkish Republic today...
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:22 pm |
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Quoting armegon:
If there is not a leader like Kemal Ataturk then there is not a country called Turkish Republic today... |
armegon, you shouldn't really say that
Türkiye was there and is there and will be there by her sons
Türkiye was a very strong country,it was an Empire,and that was before Kemal Ataturk.
İt was greater than USA these days,and was standing face to face to the Roman Empire,and the whole West.
And that was by her men ,and will always be
So Türkiye is rich by her men,you really shouldnt say that.
One man no matter how great he was wont make Türkiye.
Türkiye already great,and that what make EU afraid of her 
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:25 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting armegon:
If there is not a leader like Kemal Ataturk then there is not a country called Turkish Republic today... |
armegon, you shouldn't really say that
Türkiye was there and is there and will be there by her sons
Türkiye was a very strong country,it was an Empire,and that was before Kemal Ataturk.
İt was greater than USA these days,and was standing face to face to the Roman Empire,and the whole West.
And that was by its men .
So Türkiye is rich by her men,you really shouldnt say that.
One man no matter how great he was wont make Türkiye.
Türkiye already great,and that what make EU afraid of her |
Hahaha you dont know Turkish history, do u know what happened in independence war?
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:28 pm |
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Please people, do not get too emotional or personal. It's an interesting topic and I would feel sad if it get's locked because of this.
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:37 pm |
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Quoting armegon:
Hahaha you dont know Turkish history, do u know what happened in independence war? |
Not really,do you care to tell me what happened ?
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:41 pm |
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We still see Ataturk the only real turkish hero. he has blond hair and blue eyes. This is taught us in schools. all the foreign countries are our enemies. this is taught us in schools too. Ataturk passed away in 1938 but we visit his mosaleum and talk to him as if he is alive. Ataturk said the only real friends of Turks are Turks (not Americans, Europeans, or Arabs). Ataturk lived between 1881 and 1938. has anything changed in the world since 1938?
our economy is not good, our democracy is not good but we do not care because we have a powerfull army and we can kill our enemies.
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:47 pm |
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I understand why Atatürk is important to many turks even today because the allies tried to tear the rest of the empire apart and he prevented that but it doesn't mean that the rules and laws regarding society back then still are as valid today, because times have changed a lot since then.
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:47 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: We still see Ataturk the only real turkish hero. he has blond hair and blue eyes. This is taught us in schools. all the foreign countries are our enemies. this is taught us in schools too. Ataturk passed away in 1938 but we visit his mosaleum and talk to him as if he is alive. Ataturk said the only real friends of Turks are Turks (not Americans, Europeans, or Arabs). Ataturk lived between 1881 and 1938. has anything changed in the world since 1938?
our economy is not good, our democracy is not good but we do not care because we have a powerfull army and we can kill our enemies. |
So you stayed at primary school and do not need to search and learn the revolutions of Atatürk, you can only describe phisically...So many things changed till 1938 but enemies of Turkiye still remain, there are always lessons to take from history... why are we learning history?Is history a story u listen when you are sleeping?
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 09:53 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting armegon:
Hahaha you dont know Turkish history, do u know what happened in independence war? |
Not really,do you care to tell me what happened ? |
Please check other leaders what they said about Ataturk. Here we are talking about Kemal Ataturk the great leader of Turkiye so if u love Turkiye and talk about Turkiye, you should know something about Kemal Ataturk and respect him and his country...i cannot tell u longly about turkish history, u can find lots of documents on net, if u have some problems to understand then u can ask me why a pm or mail...
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:03 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak:
our economy is not good, our democracy is not good but we do not care because we have a powerfull army and we can kill our enemies. |
This is a powerful statement and I have read on another thread that someone stated that Turkey has lots of enemies. What is it about your enemies? Who are they? As far as I am aware Turkey has many allies. It concerns me that you are saying because you have a powerful army you do not care about democracy. A powerful army is not the answer to democracy, as has been stated in another related thread.
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:12 pm |
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Quoting libralady: Quoting kaddersokak:
our economy is not good, our democracy is not good but we do not care because we have a powerfull army and we can kill our enemies. |
This is a powerful statement and I have read on another thread that someone stated that Turkey has lots of enemies. What is it about your enemies? Who are they? As far as I am aware Turkey has many allies. It concerns me that you are saying because you have a powerful army you do not care about democracy. A powerful army is not the answer to democracy, as has been stated in another related thread. |
Thats not a powerful statement, that is the fault of politicians after the time of Kemal Ataturk...Our economy cannot be good, but people want honour not money u cannot understand this. In Turkiye Turks are being abased. Also our democracy is fine. Our enemies are imperialist countries who try to divide Turkiye's unity like in independence war...I want both democracy and powerful army maybe u undersyood wrong?
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