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Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:12 pm |
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Quoting libralady: Quoting kaddersokak:
our economy is not good, our democracy is not good but we do not care because we have a powerfull army and we can kill our enemies. |
This is a powerful statement and I have read on another thread that someone stated that Turkey has lots of enemies. What is it about your enemies? Who are they? As far as I am aware Turkey has many allies. It concerns me that you are saying because you have a powerful army you do not care about democracy. A powerful army is not the answer to democracy, as has been stated in another related thread. |
Thats not a powerful statement, that is the fault of politicians after the time of Kemal Ataturk...Our economy cannot be good, but people want honour not money u cannot understand this. In Turkiye Turks are being abased. Also our democracy is fine. Our enemies are imperialist countries who try to divide Turkiye's unity like in independence war...I want both democracy and powerful army maybe u undersyood wrong?
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:16 pm |
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a powerfull country has three things:
a powerful economy
a powerful democracy
a powerful army
our enemies are not greeks, americans, arabs, or europeans, the real enemy is the enemy inside that is who are against economic and democratic stability and who supports military intervention in politics...
now all the people make fun of us because in our country government is warned by armed forces which is supposed to be under civilian control...
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:20 pm |
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Quoting armegon: Quoting libralady: Quoting kaddersokak:
our economy is not good, our democracy is not good but we do not care because we have a powerfull army and we can kill our enemies. |
This is a powerful statement and I have read on another thread that someone stated that Turkey has lots of enemies. What is it about your enemies? Who are they? As far as I am aware Turkey has many allies. It concerns me that you are saying because you have a powerful army you do not care about democracy. A powerful army is not the answer to democracy, as has been stated in another related thread. |
Thats not a powerful statement, that is the fault of politicians after the time of Kemal Ataturk...Our economy cannot be good, but people want honour not money u cannot understand this. In Turkiye Turks are being abased. Also our democracy is fine. Our enemies are imperialist countries who try to divide Turkiye's unity like in independence war...I want both democracy and powerful army maybe u undersyood wrong? |
Forgive me but you are not Kaddersokak?? No I dont understnd that is why I ask. But it is a powerful statement when one says they have a powerful army and will kill our enemies!! What I am saying, who are these enemies? Who are these imperialist countries? Maybe I am being naive and I should know but I am on the outside looking in.
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:20 pm |
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"but people (Turks) want honour not money"
then why on the earth do hundred of thousands Turkish people apply for American green card lottery or why do hundreds of people wait in front of the emabssies to get a visa to Europe?
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:20 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: a powerfull country had three things:
a powerful economy
a powerful democracy
a powerful army
our enemies are not greeks, americans, arabs, or europeans, the real enemy is the enemy inside that is who are against economic and democratic stability and who supports military intervention in politics...
now all the people make fun of us because in our country government is warned by armed forces which is supposed to be under civilian control...
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If it is ok for army to take control whenever it wants then why do we have elections, we can just live in a Totaliterian regime like and ban elections and generals can rule the country. All that money for elections will not be wasted at least 
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:21 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: a powerfull country had three things:
a powerful economy
a powerful democracy
a powerful army
our enemies are not greeks, americans, arabs, or europeans, the real enemy is the enemy inside that is who are against economic and democratic stability and who supports military intervention in politics...
now all the people make fun of us because in our country government is warned by armed forces which is supposed to be under civilian control...
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So you think like that look at weapons of PKK where they made from...Do People make fun of us at the time of Kemal Ataturk?You are right we have also enemies inside, read "Gençliğe Hitabe" and decide who they are..Okeyto?
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:24 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: a powerfull country has three things:
a powerful economy
a powerful democracy
a powerful army
our enemies are not greeks, americans, arabs, or europeans, the real enemy is the enemy inside that is who are against economic and democratic stability and who supports military intervention in politics...
now all the people make fun of us because in our country government is warned by armed forces which is supposed to be under civilian control...
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Thanks, that makes more sense but I am sure no one is laughing at you (Turkey), at such a serious issue.
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:30 pm |
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Quoting ruthless87: Quoting kaddersokak: a powerfull country had three things:
a powerful economy
a powerful democracy
a powerful army
our enemies are not greeks, americans, arabs, or europeans, the real enemy is the enemy inside that is who are against economic and democratic stability and who supports military intervention in politics...
now all the people make fun of us because in our country government is warned by armed forces which is supposed to be under civilian control...
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If it is ok for army to take control whenever it wants then why do we have elections, we can just live in a Totaliterian regime like and ban elections and generals can rule the country. All that money for elections will not be wasted at least |
You go and read my other comments, then write here...I know your aim and what you have written about Ataturk...
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:34 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: "but people (Turks) want honour not money"
then why on the earth do hundred of thousands Turkish people apply for American green card lottery or why do hundreds of people wait in front of the emabssies to get a visa to Europe? |
How do u know?Do u work for American embassy?You say thousands then hunreds... And also i see nothing wrong about that...People sure want money but first honour...If u only want money then okey...
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:45 pm |
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Quoting armegon:
there is nothing undemocratic issue here...U can not think Turkiye as your country or any other country else in the world...Turkiye's situation is very different, Turkiye is in a very important region and has lots of enemies so always should has a powerfull army... |
We are in a very difficult stiuation too,we have lots of enemies too,and we should have a powerful army too,but we also have some choices ,and not forced by our army!
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 10:52 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting armegon:
there is nothing undemocratic issue here...U can not think Turkiye as your country or any other country else in the world...Turkiye's situation is very different, Turkiye is in a very important region and has lots of enemies so always should has a powerfull army... |
We are in a very difficult stiuation too,we have lots of enemies too,and we should have a powerful army too,but we also have some choices ,and not forced by our army!
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Good, i dont know which country you are from, but do not compare Turkiye with your country or any other country, all has its special situations...
Sağlıcakla Kal!!
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