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Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:44 am |
Quoting KeithL: Of course being religous is not wrong. But, bringing religion into government is wrong. The constitution set by Ataturk is clear. If Turkey has to choose between satisfying EU law or satisfying Ataturk law, who do you think they will choose? |
yes... they dont say anything opposite and I didnt hear anything against secularism from them. just his wife has head scarf and they go to mosque on friday. is this bringing religion into government? it s not right to use someone's family (head scraf of his daughter or wife) for politic aims. I just see what they do for this country and as I see they do good things, in the way of EU they are being successful. and now turkey's economy better than before. and this is the way ataturk showed to follow. for turkey it s impossible to turn back from secularism and it s nonsense to worry. our mosr importent subject is economy not our president's belief.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:50 am |
Than why are the public school's showing greater emphasis in teaching Islam? This has happened during the rise of AK Party. This is a greater concern than his wife's headscarf...
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:59 am |
Quoting KeithL: Than why are the public school's showing greater emphasis in teaching Islam in public school's? This has happened during the rise of AK Party. This is a greater concern than his wife's headscarf... |
turkey's education curriculum hasnt changed. Religion lessons are same as before. same lessons and same subjects...if you dont know. head scarf is still forbidden in schools. and religious schools are closed. I dont see any difference about this. Ak party didnt change anything. if they wanted they would allow head scarf in schools.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:08 am |
Thats not what I hear from those I know with children in school. And others feel the same way. This is the same man that banned alcohol in istanbul 10 years ago. He or Gul, or any other AK Party leader cannot be trusted as President.
And if they are so good for economy, then why has TUSIAD also spoken out against them?
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:22 am |
I dont understand KeithL,are you againist people to have their own believes?
Or even choices in what they wear?
If governmet allow this,that make it a bad government?!!!
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:25 am |
I believe in following Ataturk's outline for secularism. I have no problem with women wearing headscarves. Or men being religous.
But in the past AK Party/Welare party beliefs have influenced politics and law. This alone makes Erdogan or Gul unacceptable for President.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:35 am |
But Erdogan has been elected by people,wont that say anything at all ?
Like maybe they want him ??!!!
I dont really know what is the problem,
People of Turkiye will say what they want, why to control that by an army threat ?
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:41 am |
He was elected as Prime Minister, not President. Millions of Turks have marched in the last weeks. Turks are voting, with their voices and their feet. Aren't you listening?
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:54 am |
Turkiye is only Istanbul and Ankara ?!
Why dont you see and listen to others too not just people who are in picture?!
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:03 am |
I dont know where you get your information from. People bussed in from all regions of turkey for both events, not only Istanbul and Ankara. And I'm sure you are aware that Istanbul and Ankara are the two largest cities. Between them, they represent about 25% of the country's population.
And soon, there will be a rally in Germany by Turks who live there, also against AK Party.
Look who is against the AK party gaining the presidency. It is the well educated Turks. University staff, business leaders, senior military staff. Do you think these people are stupid?
Not living in Turkey, where do you form your opinion on this subject?
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 01:44 pm |
thats really interesting ,as if 2 different Turkish people living in our wonderfull country,and some of em using secularism as a political weapon,sure a a few people (only a few mariginals) wants an islamic country,but thats never barrier for the other millions,and not easy to believe how come this much discussions about beliefs in a secualr and law country??i believe thats no problem in the big part of Turkish people about beliefs,but just some mariginals (especially who calls theirself intellectual and democratical)using secualrism for ther selfish political aims and worries.Friends!!!Turkey is a law country,and has a big power,so everythings will be finer when we trust each other more and we respect to rules of democracy...
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