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Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy
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50.       MrX67
2540 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 01:44 pm

thats really interesting ,as if 2 different Turkish people living in our wonderfull country,and some of em using secularism as a political weapon,sure a a few people (only a few mariginals) wants an islamic country,but thats never barrier for the other millions,and not easy to believe how come this much discussions about beliefs in a secualr and law country??i believe thats no problem in the big part of Turkish people about beliefs,but just some mariginals (especially who calls theirself intellectual and democratical)using secualrism for ther selfish political aims and worries.Friends!!!Turkey is a law country,and has a big power,so everythings will be finer when we trust each other more and we respect to rules of democracy...

51.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 04:08 pm

We will fix the problems. Don't you worry. Those Arab admirers in Turkia can be sure they will pay for their actions.

52.       janissary
0 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 04:12 pm

Democracy will win!

53.       KeithL
1455 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 04:56 pm

Quoting erdinc:

We will fix the problems. Don't you worry. Those Arab admirers in Turkia can be sure they will pay for their actions.



Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

54.       qdemir
813 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 08:03 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Thats not what I hear from those I know with children in school. And others feel the same way. This is the same man that banned alcohol in istanbul 10 years ago. He or Gul, or any other AK Party leader cannot be trusted as President.

And if they are so good for economy, then why has TUSIAD also spoken out against them?



Who, when, where, why, how!? I didn't know that.

55.       azade
1606 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 08:30 pm

Something that I can't underatand...
What kind of power does the president have compared to the PM? When the army is concerned about AKP why did they allow Erdoğan to become PM?

Like janissary said earlier, Turkey is secular country and there's just no chance that it will change. With that said, it is impossible to seperate politics and ethics completely. Islam has deep roots in Turkey and that is bound to influence ethic questions, same goes for all other countries.

56.       aslı
342 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:18 pm

We should discuss about law of elections. Because they are there for 36 percent. But they represent 64 of congress. Do you think this is fair? Democracy is not system. It is a way of living. And has to protect itself. If not, there wont be a democracy at all. It is hard to reach in this condition for fundemantalist which they are in now. So they have to protect their places. They have to change all of the republican basics, so they could get all the power and never give it back. Lighten up, they are the wolves who looks like sheep!

57.       ruthless87
38 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:54 pm

Quoting aslı:

We should discuss about law of elections. Because they are there for 36 percent. But they represent 64 of congress. Do you think this is fair? Democracy is not system. It is a way of living. And has to protect itself. If not, there wont be a democracy at all. It is hard to reach in this condition for fundemantalist which they are in now. So they have to protect their places. They have to change all of the republican basics, so they could get all the power and never give it back. Lighten up, they are the wolves who looks like sheep!



Did this matter about the parliament came to peoples' mind just now? All of those parties who are oppose to the election system(Presidential and 10% in parliament), were once in government.

Also I want to ask everyone whether they have chosen to be born as whatever race they are?

58.       KeithL
1455 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:57 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quoting KeithL:

Thats not what I hear from those I know with children in school. And others feel the same way. This is the same man that banned alcohol in istanbul 10 years ago. He or Gul, or any other AK Party leader cannot be trusted as President.

And if they are so good for economy, then why has TUSIAD also spoken out against them?



Who, when, where, why, how!? I didn't know that.



Erdogan was mayor of Istanbul in the 1990's. And when he was mayor, he tried to ban the sale of alcohol in Istanbul. He did this by introducing a law saying it was forbidden to sell alcohol within "100 or 200" meters of camii's. Well, there are camii's everywhere. So this law would have shut down every pub in Istanbul.

59.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:29 pm

Quoting aslı:

We should discuss about law of elections. Because they are there for 36 percent. But they represent 64 of congress. Do you think this is fair? Democracy is not system. It is a way of living. And has to protect itself. If not, there wont be a democracy at all. It is hard to reach in this condition for fundemantalist which they are in now. So they have to protect their places. They have to change all of the republican basics, so they could get all the power and never give it back. Lighten up, they are the wolves who looks like sheep!



this election laws were conducted by loser of the last election.did u forget it???turkish ppl gave this right to AKP to govern country.yes it is 36 percent,and they have rights. so others (%64)must have thought this before and result of next election will be same again...

so we want democracy and respect to ppl who elected governers...


kisses u all

60.       libralady
5152 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:42 pm

So how did the speech go tonight?

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