"Turkey has a special stiuation or a condition" is another discourse to justify the undemocratic acts in Turkey. That means Turkey has a special stiuation so in Turkey we can not have full democracy, Turkey is a modern country but army should be more powerfull than government.

Yes, Turkey is a special case because we do not have a real democracy but we say we are a modern country. If we want to be a modern country in European standarts, representatives selected by people, not armed forces, should govern Turkey.

if we do not trust civil goverments, turkey will continue to be a special case.

Protecting the 'secular democratic social law-state ', as turkish republic is defined in our constitution, is no contradiction to democracy.One cannot talk about democracy unless there is secularism.One cannot talk about democracy in a country where people have to live according to the rules of a certain religion.Islamist states cannot be called democracies and our oh-so-democrat islamists who keep harping on about democracy, admitt democracy is not the aim,it is just a tool to get them there where they wanna be.Which is an islamist state thats run by Sheria.And this is islamist-fashism.
Secularism is an essential component of democracy and therefore protected in our constitution. It's one of the unchangable principles of the constitution.Twist it all you want,Army does not intervene with politics.They respect democractic institutions.But when these founding principles of our democracy is at stake its their duty to protect the regime acording to our constitution.No regime is suicidal.

KADDERSOKAK, go spam other boards with your islamist propaganda and anti-republican drivel taken from Fettullah Hoca press.We've heard it all before and we are not impressed
All you can fool is some foreigners here with very limited knowledge about Turkey matters.And they are not the ones who will decide about Turkey's future

Anyway,noone wants a coup here, so forget about Armed Forces, meet the Unarmed Forces of Turkiye we are relying on
After more than 1 million protestors in Ankara 2 weeks ago, now 3- 4 million demostraters rally in Istanbul to show their support to our Secular Republic,and protest AKP and its presidential candidate.

kadersokak baksana kaç kişiyiz saysana sonra da dön senin 2. cumhuriyetçi/takkeli taifesini bi say bakalım .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mrihah8HVU&mode=related&search=



sing along kadersokak , bir başkadır benim memleketim...lay lay lay lay lay lay lay lay....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3gN34XQao0


I hear the footsteps of early elections, there we will take care of this AKP government.

Caglayan Square is very near my home, so we went there yesterday to take part. Turkey is special, and different. You cannot compare its struggle to modernize and maintain its independence to any other country's.
In a sense, this country is still being governed by Ataturk (and thats a good thing).
The constitution is very clear regrading secularism. Some feel that Buyukanit was out of line in his midnight statement on Friday. But it is his duty to make clear that unsecular leadership in Turkey will not be tolerated. And by announcing this at midnight on Friday, he minimized any damage to turkish stock market and economy.
Lets not forget that Erdogan spent time in jail as mayor of Istanbul, after wideranging laws he made that are in-line with fundamental islamic law. Some no different than what we would expect from Taliban or Iranian government. Is this the direction we want Turkey to follow?
And since erdogan and gul have come to power, islamic teaching has received more priority in public schools. Schools hold contests for children who can memorize and recite the Koran the best. This is not the type of education needed to move Turkey forward.
Even TUSIAD has come forward with its opposition to an AK Party Presidency.

Turkey is secular and will remain secular...

I have no fear about secularism. I dont think they can forward turkey to an islamic state. coz R. tayyip and gul have worked very much for European Union more than other goverments before. but now? all of the ppl in cağlayan meeting are against to join EU. and I wanna ask... did erdogan decide to join european union??? NO. turkey applied to be a member 40 years ago. if they had a different opinion they would give up this... Turkey's face is towards to west but these ppl still think different coz tayyip and gul are religious...Being religious is not dangerous. it s their belief, and I respect this and it s none of our businees if his wife has head scarf. Turkey is a democratic country and turkish nation wanted these ppl to govern us. and it s not duty of BUYUKANIT to warn goverment. his duty is protect turkey against enemies. if they think they can warn goverment, they must warn kurdish parties coz his duty is defending the rights of turkish soldiars...

Of course being religous is not wrong. But, bringing religion into government is wrong. The constitution set by Ataturk is clear. If Turkey has to choose between satisfying EU law or satisfying Ataturk law, who do you think they will choose?