Quoting peace train:

btw At the end of the links I put the statement "People can make their own minds up" but I deleted it in error.

Quoting AEnigma III:

Dearest Peacetrain,
Thank you so much for revealing the untruths in the video I posted. Apparently they were all actors and the speaker was held at gun-point to utter those words. (I hear the crowd scenes are up for an OSCAR ). It was not filmed in the largest mosque in Birmingham at all, but at Universal Studies!

People who complain of "bad editing" are ones with something to hide. You can "edit" some speakers all you like and find nothing which says words like the speaker in this video.

Thank you for your application to have this thread locked. Erdem needs vigilant members like yourself to assist him in eradicating any violation of Turkishness.
AEnigma xxxxx

(Is Channel 4 considered lesser? As far as I am aware they are subject to the same broadcasting laws as the BBC - and have won many awards for their programming)

Quoting peace train:

Absolutely not considered lesser at all. It's only that I know you like to have sources quoted correctly. I can't see how the police have anything to hide. I can't see what the queen had to hide either. You know as well as I do that such editing goes on. I wasn't defending the people in the programme or the makers of the programme either. I thought I made it clear, I was not giving a view on the content, that's why I gave the example of the Queen too. My point is we need to be careful about what is posted and I gave some alternatives just to emphasise the point that argument for or against anything can be found in unlimited supply.

You are welcome to my time (if there was an emoticon for taking a bow, I would) . Perhaps you could provide me with a reference and explain to the moderators how conscientious I am

Quoting catwoman:

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So you're basically not getting it alameda. Oh well, didn't expect you to anyway.
People like you is exactly what's so evil about islam. They take NO RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting MrX67:

bikini (sorry for this extrem sample)

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quote:

Your point was NOT that "we need to be careful about what is posted" and to put forward to opposite view. If that was true, you would not have asked this thread to be locked on the basis of my link.

You are, like the UK establishment, carrying out Political Correctness in the extreme towards people who have no respect for YOU until you convert to Islam.

Quoting peace train:

AEnigma,

You may accuse me of anything you like, if it pleases you. I know what I meant and I'm only sorry you didn't understand my point. I WAS telling the truth and I am NOT an advocate of extreme PC. Even CH4 allowed both sides a chance to speak when they reported the investigation on their news programme. Giving two sides enables people to make their own minds up, especially people who do not know the UK, which many people on this site don't. I don't think that is extreme PC.

I do NOT agree with incitement of racial hatred under any circumstances.

My own personal experience is that my circle of friends are Muslim and non Muslim and we frequently socialise together and have the utmost respect for each other. Nobody is trying to convert anybody.

My place of work is a multi ethnic state primary school and we regularly have Muslim parents choosing to send their children to our school from schools where there are no non Muslims. They make the move because they want their children to grow up in a multicultural environment where mutual understanding and respect is cultivated. Of course I know that this is not happening all over the country, but it's happening in many places.