Quoting azade:

Quoting teaschip1: Quoting azade: Running a stop sign is a very serious matter, in my native country it costs you your license. You initially had a point but maybe you should work on your comparisons. Colours may break a rule but it's hardly the same thing as causing potential danger to people in traffic. I hope the girl shows up in the right colours next time so she can prove what she can do, "even" as a hijabi. Of course I wasn't comparing apples to apples anyone could see that. I don't think any comparison would appease you Azade.

Quoting teaschip1:

I assumed you were familiar with the term shared abstraction. It's when someone uses an analogy that doesn't necessarily have a direct relation..but an idea, a pattern an attribute or effect. And look closer, I never said they were the SAME thing.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Actually, if I were to be on a beach where women dress like this, they would make ME feel uncomfortable. I would probably feel as if they are looking at me like a western w**** asking to get raped. In fact, I am only enjoying the sunshine (that humans actually need) and the salt of the sea on my body.

If a woman dresses this willingly, she keeps a system where the man has the power over the woman going. If a woman is, maybe without realising it, forced into wearing these, I can only feel sorry for her.

And just for the record: Im a very modest dresser and you would never catch me wearing clothes that show too much of 'private skin'. But this is not a case of modesty and shyness, it goes much deeper into the roots of a way of thinking, that one should stay far away from.

Quoting thehandsom:

Just as an extra info:
Couple of years ago I was in Sile/Istanbul with my parents on the beach. And we saw several women wearing those head to toe covering things. And the men with them were wearing very long swimming trunks. They were trying to enjoy themselves.

My first thought was 'oh well, they have right to be there and enjoy themselves as like any other citizens'. But bizaarly my mother, who is a quite devoted muslim, did not take the same view. Her reaction was :'What is this? if you are that muslim what are you doing here?'. She also said that (in her simplistic turkish way) 'they are trying to say that all these girls wearing normal swimming costumes on this beach are all prostitutes'.
That was what her opinion was about the subject!!

Quoting thehandsom:

Just as an extra info:
Couple of years ago I was in Sile/Istanbul with my parents on the beach. And we saw several women wearing those head to toe covering things. And the men with them were wearing very long swimming trunks. They were trying to enjoy themselves.

My first thought was 'oh well, they have right to be there and enjoy themselves as like any other citizens'. But bizaarly my mother, who is a quite devoted muslim, did not take the same view. Her reaction was :'What is this? if you are that muslim what are you doing here?'. She also said that (in her simplistic turkish way) 'they are trying to say that all these girls wearing normal swimming costumes on this beach are all prostitutes'.
That was what her opinion was about the subject!!

Quoting AEnigma III:

This is very very true DK. Why muslim men assume that you are on the beach "displaying yourself" - are they completely sick? Out of interest do muslim women who completely cover themselves suffer any physical ill-health due to lack of sunshine - health experts recommend at least 15 minutes per day. As far as I am aware you would suffer lack of vitamin D ...

Covering yourself does not stop sick men thinking sick things - they just find other things to get sapik about! In Victorian times when UK women word long dresses, the accident sight of an ankle was enough to excite them!

Quoting MrX67:

friends we talking about a main human right or freedom,how can we judge other one's prefer while this choice doesn't give any harm to social order????