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Muslim Athlete Disqualified Over Uniform
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40.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 04:54 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I don't agree, you can use the same analogy for any rule then. I ran a stop sign a couple times, an officer saw me do it and looked the otherway maybe even gave me a warning. However, the 3rd time I ran the stop sign he gave me a ticket. Just because nothing was said the first two times, doesn't mean it was right. I do agree that they should have been more proactive and addressed the issue the first time. Because I can see how it would send a message it's permissable.


I don't think that THIS is the right comparison! There's no rule to give anybody a chance until the 3rd time. If rules are followed, than they should have been followed from the beginning - the fact that they weren't looks very suspicious.

41.       MrX67
2540 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 05:06 pm

Quote:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting MrX67:

ridiculously ???thats very hard word for judge a life style???



That is MY opinion MrX67. And yes it is, particularly as this "life style" seems to only apply to women.

how you can read their brains with ur own experiences,doesn't any possibility she doin that by to be willing with her all heart and with her free will?????

42.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 05:18 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting teaschip1:

I don't agree, you can use the same analogy for any rule then. I ran a stop sign a couple times, an officer saw me do it and looked the otherway maybe even gave me a warning. However, the 3rd time I ran the stop sign he gave me a ticket. Just because nothing was said the first two times, doesn't mean it was right. I do agree that they should have been more proactive and addressed the issue the first time. Because I can see how it would send a message it's permissable.


I don't think that THIS is the right comparison! There's no rule to give anybody a chance until the 3rd time. If rules are followed, than they should have been followed from the beginning - the fact that they weren't looks very suspicious.



There are many rules & laws that allow for flexability. Look at our own judicial system & work enviornment! But, I do see your point.. With over 4,000 known religions in the world, anyone could make their case. That is what I'm trying to point out. In my example of wearing a cross..Maybe my religon or belief is that I carry a rosary or wear a cross. So the next person's religous belief is they dress covered from head to toe. I think flexability needs to come from the individual and if they feel it is compromising their religion, then simply don't participate.

Bye the way, if you were the person running the stop sign, wouldn't you be glad if you weren't cited. lol

43.       Cacık
296 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 05:25 pm

I think both girl and the coach broke the rules really. She should not have broken the uniform code in the first place by using multi-coloured attire. AND the coach should not have allowed it the first time either - perhaps they are both to blame ! Had it been corrected in the first instance we would not have this news report !

44.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 06:39 pm

Quoting MrX67:

some people look at the women or girls as they r alien who wears hasema on beachs,any comment about that?>>>>http://www.hasema.com/ i think main problem not shape of clothes or wearing stilies,thats matter how much we tolreated to differences unless this diversities don't give any harm social peace or order??



Nice link MrX67...Thank you. It's good that at last someone has made something for shy women so they can go to the beach and swim. Previously, there was no accomodation for these women.

I may note, not all ladies like to expose their flesh to possible scruitiny...I know a number of Western women who are not Muslim who would find an opportunity to cover themselves in an elegant and stylish manner a relief. A lot of women just do not go anyplace where swim wear is expected.

Here is my choice

45.       azade
1606 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 08:12 pm

Running a stop sign is a very serious matter, in my native country it costs you your license. You initially had a point but maybe you should work on your comparisons. Colours may break a rule but it's hardly the same thing as causing potential danger to people in traffic.

I hope the girl shows up in the right colours next time so she can prove what she can do, "even" as a hijabi.

46.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 08:21 pm

Quoting azade:

Running a stop sign is a very serious matter, in my native country it costs you your license. You initially had a point but maybe you should work on your comparisons. Colours may break a rule but it's hardly the same thing as causing potential danger to people in traffic.

I hope the girl shows up in the right colours next time so she can prove what she can do, "even" as a hijabi.



Of course I wasn't comparing apples to apples anyone could see that. I don't think any comparison would appease you Azade.

47.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 08:54 pm

Quoting azade:

I hope the girl shows up in the right colours next time so she can prove what she can do, "even" as a hijabi.


I also hope that hijabis can prove that they can show up in the right colors.

48.       azade
1606 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 09:36 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting azade:

Running a stop sign is a very serious matter, in my native country it costs you your license. You initially had a point but maybe you should work on your comparisons. Colours may break a rule but it's hardly the same thing as causing potential danger to people in traffic.

I hope the girl shows up in the right colours next time so she can prove what she can do, "even" as a hijabi.



Of course I wasn't comparing apples to apples anyone could see that. I don't think any comparison would appease you Azade.



Make a proper comparison then instead of one that has very little to do with the subject because it did exactly sound like you were saying running a stop sign and showing up in wrong colours in a competition are the same thing.

49.       azade
1606 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 09:38 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting azade:

I hope the girl shows up in the right colours next time so she can prove what she can do, "even" as a hijabi.


I also hope that hijabis can prove that they can show up in the right colors.



Yes hopefully she won't make that mistake again. Apparently is was not intentional - well duh who wants to train hard and enter a competition they think plan on getting disqualified from

50.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 11:04 pm

Quoting azade:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting azade:

Running a stop sign is a very serious matter, in my native country it costs you your license. You initially had a point but maybe you should work on your comparisons. Colours may break a rule but it's hardly the same thing as causing potential danger to people in traffic.

I hope the girl shows up in the right colours next time so she can prove what she can do, "even" as a hijabi.



Of course I wasn't comparing apples to apples anyone could see that. I don't think any comparison would appease you Azade.



Make a proper comparison then instead of one that has very little to do with the subject because it did exactly sound like you were saying running a stop sign and showing up in wrong colours in a competition are the same thing.



I assumed you were familiar with the term shared abstraction. It's when someone uses an analogy that doesn't necessarily have a direct relation..but an idea, a pattern an attribute or effect. And look closer, I never said they were the SAME thing.

I wonder if the girl will now claim she was color blind too...

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