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Muslim Athlete Disqualified Over Uniform
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30.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 06:21 am

Quoting lalisia:

"getting religion involved in any subject and/or any subjects with religion as the main theme is prohibited"



+ 1,001

31.       libralady
5152 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 11:04 am

In my opinion, sport is one place that relgion should not encroach into. There has always been rules in sport, and for a very good reason. It is where the phrase "level playing field" comes from. Everyone, who partipates in a particular sport are equal, despite colour, race or creed.

When I used to compete as teenager, we had rules on clothing, some we did not like, one because the clothes were horrible, and two they were expensive for the parents. But if we wanted to compete for our school then we did as we were asked.

To me this is no different, and if this girl wants to compete then she should respect the rules.

32.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 01:03 pm

Quoting libralady:

In my opinion, sport is one place that relgion should not encroach into. There has always been rules in sport, and for a very good reason. It is where the phrase "level playing field" comes from. Everyone, who partipates in a particular sport are equal, despite colour, race or creed.

When I used to compete as teenager, we had rules on clothing, some we did not like, one because the clothes were horrible, and two they were expensive for the parents. But if we wanted to compete for our school then we did as we were asked.

To me this is no different, and if this girl wants to compete then she should respect the rules.



+1!!!

33.       MrX67
2540 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 01:35 pm

some people look at the women or girls as they r alien who wears hasema on beachs,any comment about that?>>>>http://www.hasema.com/ i think main problem not shape of clothes or wearing stilies,thats matter how much we tolreated to differences unless this diversities don't give any harm social peace or order??

34.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 02:35 pm

Quoting MrX67:

some people look at the women or girls as they r alien who wears hasema on beachs,any comment about that?



In my case, I certainly dont look at them "as if they are alien", but more out of pity. Invariably they are struggling in the heat to enjoy themselves on beaches in ridiculously impractical clothing while their husband and children are happily dressed in cooler, more practical western swimwear.

35.       MrX67
2540 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 03:36 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting MrX67:

some people look at the women or girls as they r alien who wears hasema on beachs,any comment about that?



In my case, I certainly dont look at them "as if they are alien", but more out of pity. Invariably they are struggling in the heat to enjoy themselves on beaches in ridiculously impractical clothing while their husband and children are happily dressed in cooler, more practical western swimwear.

ridiculously ???thats very hard word for judge a life style???

36.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 04:17 pm

Quote:

Quoting MrX67:

ridiculously ???thats very hard word for judge a life style???



That is MY opinion MrX67. And yes it is, particularly as this "life style" seems to only apply to women.

37.       azade
1606 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 04:22 pm

Quoting libralady:



To me this is no different, and if this girl wants to compete then she should respect the rules.



If you're finding the article too long to read, then take a look at posts #28 and #29

38.       Cacık
296 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 04:36 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Should she be disqualified?

Muslim Athlete



Hey Teaschip

No I don't think she should have been disqualified and the person who disqualified her should be investigated. Having read a couple fo articles about this, it appears that she was wearing the same uniform for three terms and that at the same time her uniform was against the colour regulations (two colours instead of one) - so either the previous three terms the coach was turning a blind eye to the rule and letting her wear it - which is not her fault but his - and when she entered this professional meet they disqualified her on the grounds of the uniform being inaccurate.

However, the mother says they tried to get her to take off her hood, if this is true then the person should be investigated totally. If it is not true and the mother has twisted words, she should likewise be exposed.

But I don't think she should have been disqualified on the grounds that she covered up - no way. But she or any other athelete for that matter - should be disqualified if the uniform is breaking the rules !

39.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 04:51 pm

Quoting Cacık:

Quoting teaschip1:

Should she be disqualified?

Muslim Athlete



Hey Teaschip

No I don't think she should have been disqualified and the person who disqualified her should be investigated. Having read a couple fo articles about this, it appears that she was wearing the same uniform for three terms and that at the same time her uniform was against the colour regulations (two colours instead of one) - so either the previous three terms the coach was turning a blind eye to the rule and letting her wear it - which is not her fault but his - and when she entered this professional meet they disqualified her on the grounds of the uniform being inaccurate.

However, the mother says they tried to get her to take off her hood, if this is true then the person should be investigated totally. If it is not true and the mother has twisted words, she should likewise be exposed.

But I don't think she should have been disqualified on the grounds that she covered up - no way. But she or any other athelete for that matter - should be disqualified if the uniform is breaking the rules !



I don't agree, you can use the same analogy for any rule then. I ran a stop sign a couple times, an officer saw me do it and looked the otherway maybe even gave me a warning. However, the 3rd time I ran the stop sign he gave me a ticket. Just because nothing was said the first two times, doesn't mean it was right. I do agree that they should have been more proactive and addressed the issue the first time. Because I can see how it would send a message it's permissable.

However, why can't people either conform to the rules set by an organization or opt not to participate because of their beliefs. We can sit here and discuss the same scenario in the workplace, it's called a dresscode.

40.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Jan 2008 Fri 04:54 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I don't agree, you can use the same analogy for any rule then. I ran a stop sign a couple times, an officer saw me do it and looked the otherway maybe even gave me a warning. However, the 3rd time I ran the stop sign he gave me a ticket. Just because nothing was said the first two times, doesn't mean it was right. I do agree that they should have been more proactive and addressed the issue the first time. Because I can see how it would send a message it's permissable.


I don't think that THIS is the right comparison! There's no rule to give anybody a chance until the 3rd time. If rules are followed, than they should have been followed from the beginning - the fact that they weren't looks very suspicious.

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