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Muslim Athlete Disqualified Over Uniform
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:04 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting MrX67: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting MrX67: sure standarts and rules needed for everything for don't creat a caos,and at other hand why the most of people have very double standarts when making comment about rules,my rules good urs bad,is there any big prejudice?? |
It's called having an opinion MrX.. Sure you can express your thoughts about rules and some rules are meant to be criticized or even broken. But to comment "you should let people do what they want" is an irresponsible view..with out any explanation,again this is my opinion. If we let people do what they want, you really think our society will have any order.
However, referring to sports specifically they do have specific attire and I believe everyone should be upheld to these standards. In American soccer (football) you are not permitted to wear jewerly. Well, if I am a Christian who wears a cross...I am required to take it off. Guess what, if I refuse I am not permitted to play. Why should this girl be considered an exception to the rule, because of her faith?  |
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I'm sorry I don't understand..could you please explain? |
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Ok, I believe I understand now. As long as we are consistent with our rules. For example, we don't discriminate against one religion vs the other. It's ok for you to dress one way because your Christian, but because your Muslim you can't. If this is what you mean, I totally agree. I think we should be held to the same standards, no matter what religion we are.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:06 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting MrX67: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting MrX67: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting MrX67: sure standarts and rules needed for everything for don't creat a caos,and at other hand why the most of people have very double standarts when making comment about rules,my rules good urs bad,is there any big prejudice?? |
It's called having an opinion MrX.. Sure you can express your thoughts about rules and some rules are meant to be criticized or even broken. But to comment "you should let people do what they want" is an irresponsible view..with out any explanation,again this is my opinion. If we let people do what they want, you really think our society will have any order.
However, referring to sports specifically they do have specific attire and I believe everyone should be upheld to these standards. In American soccer (football) you are not permitted to wear jewerly. Well, if I am a Christian who wears a cross...I am required to take it off. Guess what, if I refuse I am not permitted to play. Why should this girl be considered an exception to the rule, because of her faith? |
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I'm sorry I don't understand..could you please explain? |
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Ok, I believe I understand now. As long as we are consistent with our rules. For example, we don't discriminate against one religion vs the other. It's ok for you to dress one way because your Christian, but because your Muslim you can't. If this is what you mean, I totally agree. I think we should be held to the same standards, no matter what religion we are. |
 
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:16 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1:
However, referring to sports specifically they do have specific attire and I believe everyone should be upheld to these standards. In American soccer (football) you are not permitted to wear jewerly. Well, if I am a Christian who wears a cross...I am required to take it off. Guess what, if I refuse I am not permitted to play. Why should this girl be considered an exception to the rule, because of her faith? |
In the example you mention there is a difference for two reasons.
Jewellery is forbidding in contact sports because they are potentially dangerous. Fingers can get caught in necklaces, earrings can get ripped out etc. Actually you can just use tape over your earrings so if you want to wear a cross just do that.
Also wearing a cross is not a requirement in christianity, but convering of the body in islam is (or at least highly recommended).
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:22 pm |
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Quoting azade: Quoting teaschip1:
However, referring to sports specifically they do have specific attire and I believe everyone should be upheld to these standards. In American soccer (football) you are not permitted to wear jewerly. Well, if I am a Christian who wears a cross...I am required to take it off. Guess what, if I refuse I am not permitted to play. Why should this girl be considered an exception to the rule, because of her faith? |
In the example you mention there is a difference for two reasons.
Jewellery is forbidding in contact sports because they are potentially dangerous. Fingers can get caught in necklaces, earrings can get ripped out etc. Actually you can just use tape over your earrings so if you want to wear a cross just do that.
Also wearing a cross is not a requirement in christianity, but convering of the body in islam is (or at least highly recommended). |
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:23 pm |
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Quite easy: as long as the rules upon clothing in certain sports dont change, she has to dress just like anyone else.
Though she mentions that last year she was allowed to go like this, I think that shows inconsistency, but even then, she should dress conform the rules.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:26 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quite easy: as long as the rules upon clothing in certain sports dont change, she has to dress just like anyone else.
Though she mentions that last year she was allowed to go like this, I think that shows inconsistency, but even then, she should dress conform the rules. |
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:30 pm |
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I'm convinced that would make loads of young muslim woman drop sports because they can't compromise with their faith - the whole 'do I want to play some sports in this life or go to heaven in the next' scenario is going to play a huge role.
It is important not to lose these woman, to encourage them to play their part in society and the opposite is going to happen if they will be excluded from these kinds of activities.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:31 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: i bet you are a strong defender of freedoms? |
I sense you mean that ironically.. But YES I AM. This has nothing to do with freedom. If it was about freedom, I can also join that competition naked.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:35 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting MrX67: i bet you are a strong defender of freedoms? |
I sense you mean that ironically.. But YES I AM. This has nothing to do with freedom. If it was about freedom, I can also join that competition naked. |
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:37 pm |
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Quoting azade: I'm convinced that would make loads of young muslim woman drop sports because they can't compromise with their faith - |
The point is that their faith doesnt OBLİGE them to do so. And I think for a big amount of these women the rule that they either dont know better or have pressure from family/society counts.
You are right that maybe they should not be excluded, but if they have an inner fight 'sports-heaven', it means they dont know their own faith well and dont have any faith in the goodness of their own deity.
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17 Jan 2008 Thu 10:46 pm |
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Quoting azade: I'm convinced that would make loads of young muslim woman drop sports because they can't compromise with their faith - the whole 'do I want to play some sports in this life or go to heaven in the next' scenario is going to play a huge role.
It is important not to lose these woman, to encourage them to play their part in society and the opposite is going to happen if they will be excluded from these kinds of activities. |
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