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Thread: Turkish and or muslim dress

321.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 11:38 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Umut, it is very rare for someone to move away from their culture and upbringing (especially in a religious society) to change their religion. They will always believe that the "god" they knew as a child is the only true one.

Right but if someone wants he can do. Its the point for me.

I also have respect for other people's religion, when it is of free will, personal choice and does not involve trying to persuade others to join, or include sexism, harm to another person or creature and war.

I agree with you.

...which unfortunately means I have little respect.

With regards to nuns, as I tried to explain they are not covering their heads because they are waiting for Jesus. It may be HARD for you to understand, but they are NOT covering themselves because of men. They are covering themselves to remove their personal vanity and to free their minds to concentrate solely on God.



Maybe i cant understand. I was speaking about what you said before.(About the Jesus thing) If you say so i should just agree. And its not my business. I didnt want to interfere or comment their life. I just wanted to give an example.



Thread: Turkish and or muslim dress

322.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 11:31 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Umut_Umut:


Dear, i dont care islamic states. And here i am not debating on their management skills. I am a muslim and i am speaking about what Allah says. I said its not an obligatory thing to wear Hijab. I did not say anything about headscarf. Headscarf and hijab is different things you know.

So there is no difference dear. If you are muslim it means its your choose as the nuns ha. If you choose islam, you should obey its rules. Nuns choose to be a candidate and they are doing what they should. And muslim women choose islam and they are doing what they should. There is no difference ha.

By the way do God need nuns life? And if they open their heads what will it be? Will we want to marry them? Will Jesus not accept them???? Why they should cover their body


umut
you know nothing about nuns and about christianity. so please dont speak of matters that you are not aware of.
dont be a parrot.



Are you the leader of christians or are you spokesman of them? By the way i am not saying a bad thing.

I will speak with your words, "i can speak whatever i want DEAR, dont behave as a barbarian. "

I am not a parrot, it would be great if i can. I could fly

And its good that you know that you should not speak of matters that you are not aware of. I think you should also obey your own rule



Thread: Turkish and or muslim dress

323.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 11:27 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

You may not care about Islamic states, but a high percentage of Islam is represented by them. I am well aware that Turkey do not consider hijab or burka as compulsory (and that other Islamic countries regard Turkish as bad muslims!!). However, headscarf represents exactly the same thing - a woman having to cover herself.

Umut you may like to believe that most people have CHOSEN their religion, but in fact 99% of people do not chose their religion. They are born into a culture or country of that religion and are raised to believe in that "god".

The most devout muslim, if born in the UK for example, would most certainly now be a christian or atheist. Religion is about culture 99% of the time, and people, like sheep, follow the crowd and never explore other possibilities.

Now - let me explain about nuns! The reason they cover themselves is because it teaches them to lose all vanity and concentrate on God rather than themselves. It has absolutely nothing to do with men (or their passions!). They have to shave their heads (or cut hair very short) and cover everything except the face. This is very similar to Budhist monks' reasons for shaving their heads and wearing simple robes.



Yes a woman has to cover herself. By the way a man has to cover himself too. There are limits for men too. Its the order of the Allah. And if i am muslim, it means i believe in Allah and so i have to obey His rules.

You may be right about choosing the religion. But you can see lots of people who changes their religions or who doesnt believe anymore. Its in the heart. And if i want to be a christian i will be. I can read whatever i want, i can read all religious books. There are lots of chances now. You have internet, books, magazines, friends, religious buildings etc. If there is no thing thx to God there are missionaries around. I think its not the problem.

I respect nuns, budhists and every religion. I have to let them to live what they believe in. If they think they have to cover their heads and if they are waiting for Jesus, i can just admire them. Cos abandon the things what you can do and what you wanna do, needs strong faith.



Thread: Bayram Greetings in Turkish Accents

324.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 11:09 pm



Thread: Turkish and or muslim dress

325.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 11:07 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

It IS obligatory to women to wear hijab or burka in Islamic states Umut. It is also obligatory if you are a muslim woman following the Quran.

With regard to Nuns it is completely different! Nuns CHOOSE to devote their lives to God and are "married" to Jesus. They choose to never have a relationship with a man and to devote their lives to God completely. They do not HAVE to live their lives this way, they choose to.



Dear, i dont care islamic states. And here i am not debating on their management skills. I am a muslim and i am speaking about what Allah says. I said its not an obligatory thing to wear Hijab. I did not say anything about headscarf. Headscarf and hijab is different things you know.

So there is no difference dear. If you are muslim it means its your choose as the nuns ha. If you choose islam, you should obey its rules. Nuns choose to be a candidate and they are doing what they should. And muslim women choose islam and they are doing what they should. There is no difference ha.

By the way do God need nuns life? And if they open their heads what will it be? Will we want to marry them? Will Jesus not accept them???? Why they should cover their body



Thread: Bayram Greetings in Turkish Accents

326.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 11:01 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Dudu Türkçesi (Dudu Turkish)
Baby I need money to visit my mother for Bayram.



Then ask your mother to come and visit you.



Thread: Turkish and or muslim dress

327.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 10:59 pm

Why nuns wears clothes as muslims? You know they wear a headscarf and clothes which covers the whole body and something like that.

People can wear whatever they want. And its not an obligatory thing to wear a hijab or something like that. For me its just a cultural thing.



Thread: Bayram Greetings in Turkish Accents

328.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 10:00 pm

Türkiye Türkçesi (Turkey Turkish)
'Kurban Bayramınız mübarek olsun'
'Kurban Bayramınız kutlu olsun.'

Azerbeycan Türkçesi (Azerbaijan Turkish
'Qurban Bayramınız mubarek olsun!'

Özbekistan Türkçesi (Uzbekistan Turkish)
'Kurban Bayromıngız mobarak bolsun!'

Türkmenistan Türkçesi (Turkmenistan Turkish
'Gurban bayramıngız gutlu bolsun!'

Kırgızistan Türkçesi (Kyrgyzstan Turkish)
'Mayramıngız kut bolsun!'

Tatar Türkçesi (Tatar Turkish)
'Korban Bayramı mubarek bulsin!'

Kazakistan Türkçesi (Kazakhstan Turkish)
'Aytiniz kutti bolsin!'

Uygur Türkçesi (Uyghur Turkish)
'Bayramıngızga mübarek bolsun'

Karaçay Türkçesi (Karachay Turkish)
'Kurman Bayramıgız kabıl bolsun'


Bayramınız kutlu olsun.

If anyone knows any other turkish accents please let me know.



Thread: can anyone help me translate the following??? thank you very much

329.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 16 Dec 2007 Sun 04:55 pm

lol mousy



Thread: can anyone help me translate the following??? thank you very much

330.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 16 Dec 2007 Sun 04:52 pm

it would be great if we have chance to seperate them lol

yummyy chocolate



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