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Thread: Soap Opera "Noor" (Gümüş) changes traditional Arab Gender Roles

351.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 02:16 pm

 

Quoting farukdemirhan

 

who would not be happy to be treated like queens ....( drivers , money , clothes , travelling , studing ....so many things u didnt try as turk but the kurd i guss they do )

 

 I wouldn´t!  Where´s the sweetness of self-sufficiency in that? Where´s the selfrespect? Where´s the sweetness of buying something that you worked for? And.. where´s the joy of taking the bus! Swearing at the busdriver, looking at other people, being part of society?

 

It would be a dirt on my personal pride and selfrespect to take money from my father or partner, which they worked hard for, and spend it on a driver, clothes and holidays, if I could provide for it myself as well! It would be like living in a  golden cage and doing tricks and acrobatics, just because people have paid for your exquisite dinners and because the cage you are kept in is made of golden.  



Edited (7/16/2009) by Deli_kizin



Thread: Soap Opera "Noor" (Gümüş) changes traditional Arab Gender Roles

352.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 02:10 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

No man is better than a woman and no woman is better than a man only by virtue of their gender. We are equal, we are able to do the same things in life. Do the same jobs, earn the same money, be respected and treated fair.

 

 I don´t think it is even close to possible to have an argument against that! Well said, DDciðim



Thread: Soap Opera "Noor" (Gümüş) changes traditional Arab Gender Roles

353.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 01:35 pm

 

Quoting farukdemirhan

loudly : WE R MORE THAN HAPPY ....

 

 And it is my personal conviction that the louder you scream, the less you are sure of what you are saying..



Thread: Soap Opera "Noor" (Gümüş) changes traditional Arab Gender Roles

354.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 01:32 pm

 

Quoting farukdemirhan

who would not be happy to be treated like queens ....( drivers , money , clothes , travelling , studing ....so many things u didnt try as turk but the kurd i guss they do )

 

 

 I hope you do realize that is for the lucky people who have money.

 

 

And it is shocking how women get brainwashed and start to think men have more right than women.  It is in the nature of men and women that they are not THE SAME (eþit deðiller), after all the bodily and mental features are totally different and therefor men and women usualyl are more suitable for different jobs. However, being DÝFFERENT, doesn´t mean that you aren´t equal when it comes to rights and worths! (eþit deðerinde!).

 

To think that a man´s rights go before the woman´s rights, is just sick and a way of thinking that is laid upon you from birth. You think this way because you have never experienced otherwise and are told that this is the only and right way. Ofcourse, that counts for me as well, I am also a child of Western thought. However, if there is a system where men have more rights than women, and both are happy (hard to believe, any woman who has a good brain-capacity will want more from life than being controlled by a man), and there is a system where men and women have the same rights and also both are happy, which one would you choose?



Thread: Soap Opera "Noor" (Gümüş) changes traditional Arab Gender Roles

355.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 01:18 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Actually Turkey is a secular country with Muslim majority. But religion and the state are separated. Of course some citizens are more religious than others and that creates the illusion that Turkey as a whole is religious but it´s not true. Sure Islam, being the dominant religion does influence different aspects of life, but that´s not an overwhelming influence.

 

 Actually, one could say that religion and state aren´t seperated at all in Turkey. Religion and state are one, but in another sort of dimension: the religion (the Sunni Islam that is! which is important to know) is subject to the state and the state controls all forms of ´official religion´, such as education and giving the offices of important leading figures in islam such as imam. The imam actually is a state-official in Turkey! He is given his job by the state and is also paid from state money.

 

This seems a good system, but in fact it shows the close connection of Turkey with its religion and also shuts its eyes for other religions in Turkey. In the east for example, we have many Alevi families, who are more related to Shia Islam than Sunni Islam. However, in Turkish ´religious state system´, they simply do not exist. Same is for christians and jews. By saying ´non-existent´, I dont mean that the Turkish state or people deny the existence of them, but there is no official body for their rights and duties, or a fund for their mosques or ´cem evleri´ or churches. If a state controls a certain religion (Sunni Islam in this case), at  the same time it supports that religion. Therefore it favours that one religion, and I believe ´secular´ (or even laicist for that matter) isnt the correct word for the turkish system, but that is just a matter of definition anyhow

 

The idea behind secularism in the Turkish case, is that when religion is controlled in an official way, the ´folk Islam´ will eventually become less important than the official state-Islam, and when Islam is taken out of public life but reduced to personal spheres, eventually ´people will become secularized´ as well. Unfortunately Im afraid that its quite the opposite.

 

 

 



Edited (7/16/2009) by Deli_kizin



Thread: Please need Turkish language exchange

356.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 12:01 am

 

Quoting Mazen Soofi

 

 

I´m really sorry, I didn´t mean that ... and by the way, I don´t use FaceBook and I don´t have a profile in it <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

Thank you for posting..

 

 

It´s no problem I thought it was a nice message to introduce yourself!



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

357.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Jul 2009 Wed 02:39 pm

Wondering if  ´4 beds ensuite´ means 2 separate rooms, connected to each other with a door, or does it mean that the bathroom is ensuite and not shared. The word ensuite implies the first, but when looking further and seeing ´single bed ensuite´ exists as well, something is telling me we might have made the wrong reservation.. Confused



Edited (7/15/2009) by Deli_kizin
Edited (7/15/2009) by Deli_kizin



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

358.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Jul 2009 Wed 02:37 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 You know you can´t stay away...you may come and go but you are here FOREVER!!!!  Ninja

 

 TC should be named Hotel California!



Thread: Soap Opera "Noor" (Gümüş) changes traditional Arab Gender Roles

359.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Jul 2009 Wed 02:36 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Do you mean all saudi women are the same? All of you are happy like that? I must say I´m finding it strange, it´s hard to believe all women in one country think in unison. Where´s choice in it? Not all western women get pregnant outside marriage, not all have boyfriends (some have girlfriends or marry their fist boyfriend), some of us do not drink at all. You´re free to live as you wish. Can you say the same about women in SA?

 

+1

 



Thread: Food that must be tried!

360.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Jul 2009 Wed 01:51 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Get the caramelized onions just slightly  burned.

 

 I was wondering if bulgur instead of pirinç wouldn´t be a better ´taste-match´? Or would that make the dish too heavy?



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