Yes. Also my thought on the religion one. Thought we had similar one(s??) before!

Ohh thanks. You saved me from the embarrassment of not having a hobby worth mentioning

 There are also ´ethnically´ Turks who are christian. I hate the word ´ethnically´, but I just wanted to stress that its not only the ones who are citizens of Turkey, but also the ones who are ´ethnically´ Turk. Most of the ones I have come across were converts, who grew up in a Muslim family, or who came from a family who was converted 1 or more generations ago.

but I do think most of the Christians in Turkey are from ´foreign´ origine, as you said Syrians for example. But its not true that there arent any ethnically Turk christians.

 Yes there are. But I think there are more Turkish Christians who do not say it openly.. I know of the murders on Christian Turks in Malatya. One of the reasons I wont forget it is because the name of the daughter of the murdered man was my own name, Esther.

As for Turkish people who openly say it: I twice went to a church in Ýzmir. I think it was called the ´light church, church of light, smt like that´. It had an international sphere. I went there with a Brazilian catholic family of mine who also lives in Ýzmir. They asked me and Kadir to come for the Eastern and Christmas celebration. There were mainly foreigners in the church who happened to live in Ýzmir (germans, british, brazilian etc), but also some from the east (I spoke to a few Iranians, who said the moved to Ýzmir because of their religion, it was safer to practice it openly there than in their own country), but also some Turks! Some of them said they are open about it. But not all of them are: a week later we ran into a Christian Turkish couple in a shopping mall. They were with friends and immediately told us in English, so that their friends would not udnerstand,  not to mention the fact we had met them in church..

 You´re welcome tatlým. As you noticed, Im fast but I misunderstood the English text Anyway, I dont know whether what I explained also is for the coffee in the Osman Empire, but I just thought it would be nice to know that some seemingly silly thoughts can be understood in a larger perspective of things that were happening in the Middle East at that time.

Happy Bayram to you too!

 Read my edit

Well I dont know about that specific topic, coffee. But I know about the tabacco protest in Ýran. Religion was used as a counterattack at European capitalism. I dont remember the details, but the Ýranian government had signed a deal that all the tabacco crops, produce etc. was to be in hands of Britain to use as they please. So when people became sick of being ruled by European expansionalism and capitalism, the religious leaders declared it haram to smoke. So now the Brits could produce the tabacco but there was nobody in Ýran buying it from them Sometimes religious decreeds etc can have a political, social or economical backgorund, as is the case here! I cant remember it with much detail, but the essence is as I described above

 If the governer of Mekka, one of the most important and high prestigious jobs in the Ottoman Empire, would say that it is haram to drink coffee, what would the Muslim subjects of the Sultan think of him? If the Sultan is supposed to be the guard over the muslim world, but he allows something like coffee, which is declared haram by a person in a high religious-prestigious job, his people might make opposition against his rule

(edit. I just read again and I think my comment doesnt totally answer your question It was the governer who feared it could make opposition against his rule, right? I misunderstood it as-- the sultan is scared of opposition after the governer declared it forbidden)

Never mind

 Louder Love that song.

Why the combination of ´none/agnostic´. It doesn´t make sense in my opinion. And since when is ´atheism´ in a list of religions

 My love, when will you come/return from England, I miss you so much.

Correct Turkish: Aþkým Ýngiltere´den ne zaman geleceksin, seni çok özledim.