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31 May 2006 Wed 11:41 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting AlphaF: Hitler was an idiot...he removed 5 000 000 Jews..
Total death toll in WW2 is 65 000 000..do you ever remember the other 60 000 000? not as often, eh?....Why not? |
yeah Hitler killed such amount of people but i dont think he is an idiot... actually i dont know who he is so much what he was doing... as he affected world alot he cant be an idiot... dont misunderstood me i dont have a sympathy to hitler but wanted to say sth
about freedom of speech... nothing can be added to what Aenigma said its really wellsaid...
what about freedom of speech in our country... its a good think that ppl can SAY anything they want.. but as we have no tolerance in our characteristic and as we are easy to be directed it will be the worst thing to apply in our country.. i cant imagine what could be...
terrorism doesnt supported legally yet in our country but it has supplies behind some scenes and we had one of these lately in our School...
whatever it is... there is wide amount of people who really pays alot of money to this job - Childporn...
dont you remind the scene on the movie Donnie Darko - that the famous person was found with his archieve of child porn with a fire in his home -
the thing in holland would make them known by society nothing else... i dont think any dutch ppl will support them... if they have some amount.. this will show the sick mind ration nothing else
there is nothing to worry if you ask me
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The fact that Hitler was an intelligent and culture-loving man (he was a painter first, but was rejected at an acadamy, which would explain his enormous efforts to detect 'Entartete Kunst' and also publish it), doesn't make him less of an idiot SuiGeneris. Well idiot is a too cute word for him actually. It was man who totally lost control when he was trying to get it. You should watch the film 'The Wave', which will explain how it probably would've worked in Hitler's time.
But this is not the discussion. I'm not really worrying about things that are going to happen in Holland. This party will not get many votes, nor will it have political power to change things in this country. I'm worried about the fact this is what we've come to. That there are people who basically undermine the law and then try to spread their ideas in politics without shame.
I think Meltem is being a little bit misunderstood. At least, I understood something else from her posts. She is not talking about the politic party itself, but judging one of its points of view: the fact that children should be able to act in porn-vids, if it's out of free will. She is not discussing the 'freedom of speech' here, but i have the idea that she is trying to say that, there is nó such thing as a child playing in a porn-film on freewill. And i agree with her. When i was 12, I remember I bought condoms with my best girlfriend, to blow them up, just for fun. We made fun of it. Sex really wasn't a part of our lives and i was probably only really disgusted by the thought such a thing as porn existed. But children are easily deluded. And i think that was Meltem's point.
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