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Thread: Our racist oath

131.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Nov 2013 Sun 01:01 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

 

 

i smell an anti-militarist aproach here

formal rememberance ceremonies arent necessary but they didnt died for nothing also. wars are necessary in some conditions. we cannot tell the enemy that we dont want war so we will let you in freely! Many soldiers in dardanelles were young students who went to war voluntarily. Defending the country is extremely important and worths to die for in our belief system.

 

I agree with Abla´s approach here.. No war is necessary. As long as you have the army and show that you are ´more ready´ than the others, you are making the justification for others to arm as well. Pakistan makes atom bombs because India has some; Russia sells rockets to Syria and Turkey buys some rockets to stop them etc.. So it is a circle in the end.. The result is a very good portion of budgets spared for the defense and the arms. We could cure and erase many bad/evil things in the world if that money had been spent for people´s needs. 

 



Thread: Our racist oath

132.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Nov 2013 Sun 01:50 am

Nobody is reverse engineering anything/anybody  specially Ataturk and his reforms.

But when people bring Ataturk to defend their primitive ideas such as praising a racist oath from 1930s, I think they seriously damage Ataturk´s image.



Thread: Decade by decade review /Turkey

133.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Nov 2013 Sat 01:27 pm

It will take just ten years until the celebration of the 100th anniversary of the Turkish Republic, which was founded on ruins of an old empire. Every 10 years have been a turning point in Turkey’s history. Let us hope the 10th decade of the Republic is to be the years of the transition to a real democracy

..
1st decade-1923/1933: A new republic was founded in 1923
2nd decade-1933/1943: Some large steps were taken on the road to create a national identity under the single party.
3rd decade- 1943/1953: İsmet İnönü, known as the ‘Second Man’ after Atatürk, achieved to keep the country away from WW II.
4th decade- 1953/1963: The Democrat Party made the country more attached to the world economy
5th decade-1963/1973: Turkey met with the term of planned development under the rule of Süleyman Demirel,
6th decade-1973/1983: With the military intervention in Cyprus, Turkey met an international issue,
7th decade-1983/1993: Özal’s newly established party, the Mainland Party (ANAP),
8th decade-1993-2003: This period was characterized by various deep state operations
9th decade-2003/2013: The AKP has benefited a lot from the improved economic conditions after the 2001

..


source: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/decade-by-decade-review-on-90th-year-of-republic.aspx?pageID=238&nID=57242&NewsCatID=344

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Nice summary!

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Thread: Our racist oath

134.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Nov 2013 Sat 12:54 pm

 

Quoting alameda

If you are in my house, enjoying the fruits and comforts, I damn well expect you to help me defend it against those who want to destroy it.

Then there are those who are like the ones delivering the Trojan Horse. 

BTW I do know some Jewish people who to today will not purchase any German products. 

 

 

 

I think you might have been misinformed about fruits/comfort/your house thing.

First of all, nobody is saying that they wont  defend defend country.. Of course they will.. But what I am saying is that they dont NEED TO BE A RACIST to do that.

It will be quite wrong to think ONLY racist people can defend  or die for their country.

Second mistake is your house thing.. Countries are not a single house.. That is a huge mistake.. What if then the others claim they are the owner of the house and tell you if you want to keep eating the fruit, you will listen to what they say and accept it? What if they tell you that you are not a Turk anymore and a Kurd from now on?etc etc.

Anyway.. The bottom line is that :

Our oath was a racist oath, it was embaressing for all of us and it has gone for good..



Thread: what caught my eye today

135.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Nov 2013 Sat 12:35 pm

 

Quoting Kelowna

 

it´s what?????

notice how they all have to cramp themselves into little areas.

Is Britain a racist nation? One in three Brits ´admits to being racist´, according to poll

  • Third admitted making comments or being involved in discussions which could be considered racist
  • Almost 40 per cent confessed to using the phrase ‘I’m not a racist, but...´ when discussing race issues
  • Anti-racism group said the poll was ´disappointing´


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151056/Is-Britain-racist-nation-One-Brits-admits-racist-according-poll.html#ixzz2jR4ChXyt
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

 

 

 

Of course there are racist people everywhere. However, at least they know what racism is and they are able to go back put themselves into category of racism. What they call racism is generically speaking is called patriotism  in our country.. Hence the motto ´we dont have racism in Turkey´

Ad far as the minorities are concerned, community leaders and the people think they are allowed to live in their own cultural existance, they are allowed to speak their own language, they are allowed to perform their religious duties without being mocked or persecuted and they are kind of greatful for that. 

 



Thread: What are you listening now?

136.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Nov 2013 Sat 12:03 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXbDGLirqbw

 

Ezginin Günlügü- yagmur yagsa bir kuşkonsa

 

Sevdadandır, sevdadandır
Sevdadandır dedi annem, aldırma
Aldırma, gel yanıma

...
It must be love
Must be love, said my mother, never mind
Never mind, come and sit by me.
....

Kaç mevsim aşk pazarında geçti yalanlarla
Düş sattım aldanmışlara
Aklım kaçıverdi yerinden bir gece vaktiydi
Sevdiğim başka sevenim başka

How many seasons passed with lies in the love bazaar
I have sold dreams to losers
I have lost my mind and it was a night time
The person I love is different than the person who loves me

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Thread: what caught my eye today

137.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Nov 2013 Fri 11:56 pm

Map of second languages spoken in London

Source:

http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2013/10/29/map-of-second-languages-spoken-in-london/

 

This is multiculturalism



Thread: Our racist oath

138.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Nov 2013 Fri 07:36 pm

 

Quoting denizli

I think you guys calling it racist should just chill out! It´s a NATIONAL ANTHEM, what do you expect. Our anthem starts out with "O Canada we stand on guard for thee", so what, I´ve never been a soldier. And lately people have been saying it should be re-written to not be sexist. Please take these anthems with a grain of salt, people.

Racism is about hating another race or believing another race is not as good as others. So many should be offended by referring to the oath as racist.

I also think people should have the right to not sing it if they don´t want to. So fine don´t sing it everyday but don´t call it racist either.

 

 

We are not talking about our national anthem (though there are racist parts in there too). We have been talking about an oat, started in 1930s with the inspiration from fascists of Europe like Hitler and Musollini.

They got rid of their society from these type open racism long time ago. 

We had much resistance and managed to stop it in 2013.. lol

 



Thread: Population Exchange

139.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Nov 2013 Fri 07:30 pm

 

Quoting * Lamda*

 

 

So true handsom,so true...

 

Of course it is true..

Forcing people to leave from places where they have been living for generations is considered as a crime agains humanity in these days.

Horrible part of our history unfortunately!!

 



Thread: Population Exchange

140.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Nov 2013 Fri 03:40 pm

Participants in population exchange head back to Greece

 

Turkish citizens who came to Turkey in the 1923 population exchange between Turkey and Greece have paid a visit to the homes they were forced to leave in Greece.

 

Lütfü Karadag, 99, was only 10 when he left Greece as part of the population exchange agreement (known in Turkish as the "mübadele"). Karadag was sent to Turkey on a ship with 250 others, despite not knowing any Turkish. 

 

..

Hamiyet Yenilmez, 73, said her grandfather was among the Muslims who left Greece, adding that she was participating in the journey to quench her “undefinable longing” for the places her family left behind. 

 

The mutual expulsion of communities from both countries to join coreligionists on opposite sides of the Aegean Sea resulted in the uprooting of more than 1 million Anatolian Greeks and half a million Muslims in Greece. Because the exchange was made on the basis of religious affiliation and not language or ethnicity, many of those uprooted did not speak the language of their new homeland..

 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/participants-in-population-exchange-head-back-to-greece-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=57181&NewsCatID=341

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Many people went through very serious traumas during that period. Though it seemed a good idea at the time to exchange the population, in the era we live, it is considered a crime..  

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