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Thread: Turkey downgrades ties with Israel

111.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Sep 2011 Tue 07:44 pm

If someone bullies you, you do not normally react by self-criticism. The developments in the recent days are all serious affairs that have resulted in implications to the lifes of millions of people on both sides and more seems to be in store for the future.

Israel has adopted a patriotic tone since the beginning. No sane person would tolerate this. We have to show a reaction. Elsewhere, weaker nations lose their complete freedoms and welfare as a result of this show of machoism. It seems that the UN endorses this. All I am saying is this will not change anything. I am not yearning for a war but I am not saying a war never becomes necessary either.



Edited (9/6/2011) by vineyards



Thread: Turkey downgrades ties with Israel

112.       vineyards
1954 posts
 05 Sep 2011 Mon 02:05 am

"Fart" is obviously not a nice word on a public forum but in the end, there is a seed of truth in your statement. 

This world is being run by the almighty Western superpowers and the rest of the smaller Western countries take advantage of the broad classification by dutifully shaping their foreign policies in line with the interests of the US. Pro-western countries like ourselves meanwhile have to pretend standing on the fence just to keep their own citizens happy while giving full support to the same iron clad principles.

In other words, we are in it, traveling on the same train. We don´t have what it takes to put an end to it. This is their high time. They are responsible for most of the evil and good.

Israel presented a point of view to the world. They are the champions of a thought that holds it: you do not have to be powerful to run the world. A tiny country with limited means (apart from those granted by the US) in some desert land has an unprecedented weight in the world´s political affairs. This way, the well-being of a couple of million people can turn a whole region into a blood-bath. 

On paper, Turkey is stronger than Israel. A comparison of the navies alone would testify this. However, Israel has nuclear weapons which they can resort to when they feel threatened. Not a big navy, not a big army but creme de la creme of the big weapons.

Turkey will probably not turn this into a hot conflict. Because that would mean the beginning of another world war. What is more Turkey will probably be alone in this. Even the Arabs will not have the guts to side with Turkey. The rest of the Western countries will not buy Turkey´s criticism about powers that be.

There is speculation that Turkey also owns nuclear weapons. Once missiles are fired there is no going back but for now, the show must go on...

 

 

 



Thread: Match-fixing scandal in Turkie

113.       vineyards
1954 posts
 31 Aug 2011 Wed 11:53 pm

Here are my observations:

-The way Fenerbahçe management and the fans deal with the ongoing crisis is apalling. They act as if nothing has happened. They must have immediately disassociated themselves from crime and criminals. Unless fabricated, there is enough evidence to believe that their management are involved in criminal activities.

-The way the information leaked to the public is a scandal. That´s unbelievable. But we are kind of used to this. All crucial information that can damage the government´s opponents appear in international web sites. Remember what happened to Deniz Baykal and the high ranking army generals recently. They all follow a similar pattern. This calls to mind, the conspiracy theory that claims Fenerbahce president has been punished for bidding despite warnings,  at a large tender targeted by powers that be in Turkey.

-The way Turkish Football Federation handles this is another big scandal. They don´t have an opinion of their own.They look ridiculous when they do what others tell them to do. As if they are not obliged to know the UEFA rules and practices. What is their job then?

All these show, we are heading towards a chaotic period where justice is only served to those who control it.



Thread: Turkey to new Libya: Don’t destroy country

114.       vineyards
1954 posts
 28 Aug 2011 Sun 02:21 pm

Yes, I also suggest them become super democratic after being tired of butchering one another.

Should there be any delay in the process, the UN must intervene by carpet bombarding  what has remained from Libya. The fewer people remains, the easier it will be to become democratic (whatever that word means).

Anyway, we will have to be content with a soft Islamist regime that will show obedience to the West while oppressing its own people under sheria. We can also begin to see vultures (oil companies) rushing in to complete the scene.

Now the big question is which country will be the next?

 



Edited (8/29/2011) by vineyards



Thread: To all TC members \"Hayırlı Ramazanlar\"

115.       vineyards
1954 posts
 14 Aug 2011 Sun 11:02 am

Let´s be perpetually penitent then...



Thread: To all TC members \"Hayırlı Ramazanlar\"

116.       vineyards
1954 posts
 13 Aug 2011 Sat 03:48 pm

My mother who needs to take  blood pressure control pills fasts at the age of 71. There are millions like her out there. Based on the number of fasters, we must have long become a nation of angels. We sacrifice poor animals in the streets to pay for our sins too. Are we even one percent better than the Dutch or the Brits?

Quoting tunci

 

Do not use yoga for an easier fast, cleric says

 

The intention of trying to prevent hunger and thirst is against the Islamic spirit, according to Religious Affairs Directorate Supreme Board member Altuntaş.

The intention of trying to prevent hunger and thirst is against the Islamic spirit, according to Religious Affairs Directorate Supreme Board member Altuntaş

The Religious Affairs Directorate has severely criticized people who have resorted to yoga to lessen the intense feeling of hunger and thirst while fasting during the holy month of Ramadan.

The intention of trying to prevent hunger and thirst is against the Islamic spirit, Religious Affairs Directorate Supreme Board member and associate professor Dr. Halil Altuntaş said.

According to some experts, yoga can be used to increase body resistance against hunger and thirst through pranayama (respiration) and pratyahara (sense control), as well as prevent tension caused by fasting. Altuntaş also noted the “different religious beliefs” behind yoga’s philosophy, Radikal reported while emphasizing that hunger and thirst were among the main reasons and aims of fasting. “In this way, humans think of Allah, who provides food, and empathize with those who can not find it as easily. What is the point of not eating or drinking without feeling all of this?” he asked.

Stating that fasting without going through any difficulty was against Islam, Altuntaş said: “Foreign trends seeking acceptance from Muslims are trying to [penetrate into society] using Islam. Do not give credit to it.”


 

 

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Thread: To all TC members \"Hayırlı Ramazanlar\"

117.       vineyards
1954 posts
 13 Aug 2011 Sat 03:44 pm

I wish tax payers money would be used for some scientific research instead of this public show.

Quoting tunci

1.5-kilometer iftar table hosts 100,000 in Ümraniye

08 August 2011, Monday / TODAY’S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL

(Photo: AA)

İstanbul’s Ümraniye Municipality hosted 100,000 guests at a dinner table stretching over one-and-a-half kilometers for iftar (fast-breaking dinner) on Sunday night.
 

About 10,000 tables were arranged next to each other for the giant dinner on Alemdağ Street. The line of tables also extended into several side streets. A total of 1,500 people, including waiters and police officers, served at the event. Eight giant screens were installed to display images over the giant dining table.

The menu for the night was rice, roasted meat, tulumba dessert, fruit juice, bread, water and an iftar plate that included dates and olives. One bottle of water and one carton of fruit juice were put on the table for each person. A total of 15 tons of rice and 20 tons of meat were used to make the meal. The food was brought to the venue with a catering company’s trucks and distributed one hour before iftar. The catering company also kept sandwiches ready in case the food was insufficient for the large crowd.

Speaking to the Anatolia news agency, Ümraniye Mayor Hasan Can said his municipality worked for two months to put on last year’s iftar and learned much from the experience. “Last year’s preparations were taken into account, so this year’s preparations were more practical,” he said.

Stating that Alemdağ Street is the busiest in Ümraniye, Can said they took the necessary security measures for the event and noted that the guests were happy about the giant iftar program. “We had been working for days. Our guests came not only to eat but also to experience this atmosphere together,” he added.

The guests said they were happy to share the special night with thousands. Recalling the famine that hit Somalia, the participants said they must thank God for having food to eat.

So many people attended the event that some could not find a place to sit and had to eat their meals on foot. The night was not completely uneventful, either, as guests and officials argued due to the rush in distributing the food

 

 



Thread: Esad mı, Esed mi?

118.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Aug 2011 Fri 05:54 pm

Remember the name of that volcano that ruined the air traffic in Europe. Some channels even claimed they render the word most accurately showing a selection of other European channels mispronouncing it.

In every language, there are unique wovels pronounced correctly by the native speakers of that language. For example, for many of our foreign users it is next to impossible to pronounce the wovel "ö", "ı" is difficult and "ü" is a challenge. Some people may think they are rendering these wovels correctly but in fact a native speaker will detect the difference instantly.

There are speech sounds unique to Arabic too. Since Arabic is closer to European languages than Turkish is (because of the Indo-European link) one of their wovels is a bit like the British AE sound. It is neight "e" nor "a" hence the confusion.

TRT has recently opened an Arabic channel. Maybe, their staff wanted to help the guys at the Turkish department which resulted in this non-standard pronunciation.

As for popularity of Esad as a Turkish name, I can´t agree with you, the only Esads I have ever heard of are Hafiz Esad the Syrian President and Küçükesad a district in Ankara. It is an old name which was already rare in its heyday and not much heard of, today.



Thread: Turkish Defence in London

119.       vineyards
1954 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 08:12 pm

No. I guess it is a technical problem. It happens when I post from Google Chrome I guess.

 

Summarily, I raved about what Ms. May might have meant when she said community consent. Maybe she means, these matters must be settled according to the norms of different communities, if it is a Turkish or Kurdish community they may bang on your heads with their bats; elsewhere you are free to loot. Please let us keep our heads up when we are basking in the pride of our advanced civil and cultural norms. You surely don´t expect me to be bothered with the matters of the commons just because I am a home secretary.



Thread: Turkish Defence in London

120.       vineyards
1954 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 02:32 pm

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