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Thread: Lybia and the no-fly zone

201.       vineyards
1954 posts
 20 Mar 2011 Sun 03:14 am

There are lots of dumb people around who will buy the story: "We are liberating Libya". As long as the things are the way they are, this will go on like this forever. Until one day, when they find all the suffering part of the world united against them. Maybe when that day comes, they will realize how it feels to be a victim. I don´t have any hope that I can live to see that day but it is sure to come like any other awakening.



Thread: Lahmacun row opens new front in Turkish-Greek culture war

202.       vineyards
1954 posts
 19 Mar 2011 Sat 11:29 pm

Since we lived under the rule of the same big empire for long centuries, we can safely claim, the kitchens of these countries are essentially same with small local variations. We seem to have almost every single dish Greeks call theirs and vice versa.

The problem here is the fact that Greeks and Turks want to ethnically polarize themselves. This was made possible with the rise of nationalism in Europe and spreaded to the world through the relentless efforts of British, French and German intelligence and the political conjuncture.

Quoting barba_mama

So there´s a new entry in the long list of Turkish/Greek/Turkish/etc. foods...

 

 



Thread: Lybia and the no-fly zone

203.       vineyards
1954 posts
 19 Mar 2011 Sat 11:20 pm

I don´t know how this is being reported in the international media but the online version of daily Hurriyet claims the French jets are sent on a mission to bomb Libyan tanks. The US, the UK will get directly involved and Italy will aid by opening its bases.

This is an act of despotism. No political or economic measures have been tried, no negotiation has been carried out.

 



Edited (3/19/2011) by vineyards



Thread: Lybia and the no-fly zone

204.       vineyards
1954 posts
 19 Mar 2011 Sat 10:29 pm

I was not actually replying to your post. Today, it is in the news that the French jets are on a bombing mission in Libya.



Thread: Lybia and the no-fly zone

205.       vineyards
1954 posts
 19 Mar 2011 Sat 09:42 pm

Ah yes, France is known as an established exporter of freedom and peace. They have been doing their best to liberate Africa since  Napoleon. The only question that remains: Who will liberate Africa from France?

Who would believe France is bombing Libya for the benefit of Libyans when they hate the guts of any Arab in their country.

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Thread: Lahmacun row opens new front in Turkish-Greek culture war

206.       vineyards
1954 posts
 18 Mar 2011 Fri 10:08 pm

Musakka is the Turkish name. Many of these dishes were broadly categorized under Ottoman cuisine. Some were transfered directly from the Byzantine kitchen, some from Arabic, Persian and Balkan kitchens and some were developed in the Ottoman Imperial Cuisine. Therefore, they are the common products of all the countries that are holding on to the tradition.

When I went to Athens, I thought the town is more Middle Eastern in its general outlook than being a typical European city. Their kitchen, music and lifestyle are also a bit oriental. That´s why they share a lot of things with us. 



Thread: Lybia and the no-fly zone

207.       vineyards
1954 posts
 18 Mar 2011 Fri 02:35 pm

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Thread: Lybia and the no-fly zone

208.       vineyards
1954 posts
 18 Mar 2011 Fri 04:27 am

Now that we are talking about Libya, it would make sense to learn how to spell its name as a first simple step Going back to the original question: 

Meddling with an uprisal in a foreign country must not be the business of any country in the world. If action needs to be taken on the humanitarian ground, an international peacekeeping organization (e.g. the UN) could undertake the responsibility. Since most such legitimate international organizations are a bit more American than being international, the possible negative domestic reaction to such an intervention must be considered thoroughly.

Declaring a no-flight zone in the air territority of a sovereign country is a direct violation of that countries independence and could be considered as a casus belli. If such a decision has become inevitable, such a sanction must also be imposed by a neutral peacekeeping organization. The big question is: Where is that neutral organization?

In the case of Libya, the West wants to push the preference of their own about the political future of Libya. They want to get rid of Qaddafi while they can. Their emphasis seems to be on capitalizin on the opportunity. Prior to the unrest in the country, they did establish economic and political relations with the Qaddafi regime. Now, there are better alternatives on the table. I don´t think anyone´s really caring about the Libyan people. In the end, we are talking about a country whose history composed merely of a string of colonization episodes.

 

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Thread: What is Tezlik Fiili?

209.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Mar 2011 Tue 12:55 pm

Then we should describe this as the Aegean variation of Turkish.



Thread: What is Tezlik Fiili?

210.       vineyards
1954 posts
 14 Mar 2011 Mon 04:54 pm

"Bugün kapıyı açıvermedi." might be semantically and syntactically correct but it doesn´t sound normal to me. I think the desired meaning here is the opposite of : It so happened that he/she opened the door. (by chance, surprizingly, out of the blue etc.) but since such a sentence is hardly ever heard in a real-life dialogue, hearing it is probably more surprizing than the sense of surprize it conveys. 

Perhaps a more natural sounding alternative is:

 

Her gün kapıyı açan kadın, bugün de açmayıverdi.

The woman who would normally open the door everyday, has not opened it today. (per chance, due to (bad) luck, it so happened that etc.) The mood conveyed here is either one of mishap or arbitrariness.

 



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