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Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

701.       vineyards
1954 posts
 26 Aug 2009 Wed 12:59 pm

God must have created British English to be spoken by a woman. What they call as The Standard English is a language so eloquent and so nice to hear, well, as long as it is spoken by a lady.  It seems that about the time when English was winning over Dutch, the early settlers decided they would sound ridiculously soft when they blew somebody´s head off and, discarded all the exquisite aspects of the language.

 

In British English too, there are certain phrases that sound wrong. One of them is "have got" or "have"

indicating possession. The Brits say "have you money" or "have you got money". God only knows how come "got" got there or why a "special" auxiliary is needed when a simple verb would suffice.

 

Quoting lady in red

Something that´s always puzzled me - Unsure - why do Americans always say ´I COULD care less´ when they don´t give a damn about something?   In ´British English´ we say ´I COULDN´T care less´.

 

If you say ´I COULD care less´ surely it means that you haven´t yet reached the bottom of your non-caringness and therefore a little bit of you does still care.   But if you say ´I COULDN´T care less´ then it means that you have reached the bottom of your caringness and have no care left!   That makes much more sense don´t you think?

 

Silly bed Americans!  lol lol

 

Alcoholics

 

 



Thread: Ramadan in Turkey

702.       vineyards
1954 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 10:55 am

 It must really be hard to impress you. Many eminent scientists, philosophers and statesmen dedicated their work to society. The Renaissance was a manifestation of the acknowledgement of the value of human. Even God is reported to have created the entire universe for humans.

 

Thoughts of young people are like trains* , they easily get derailed.

(It does make sense in Turkey)

 

Quoting baklava

 

 

Quantity doesnt make impressions on me, but quality. You see there are over 6 billion of us. All 6 billions are idiots, only a few are genius.

 

 

 



Thread: Nationalists are going astray (or not)?

703.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 06:40 pm

 

It looks like the writer has NOW realizing that nationalists and nationalism was the real problem to achive a proper peace in Turkey as far as the Kurdish problem is concerned..

 

 

 Every political view must present an antithesis in order to justify its presence. Zaman being a representative of the Nur community under disguise does not need an excuse like the Kurdish problem it being both a target for and an adversary of the nationalist movement in Turkey.

 

The publications have a habit of fishing for support among those who oppose nationalism for reasons other than their own. There is a general tendency to support whoever works against your enemy. I think this is a very wrong approach. I am against nationalism. Nonetheless, I am much more against radical Islam.

 

I remember very well the time when these so called anti-nationalists were acting together with the ultranationalists.

 

Just as it is told in the lyrics of this Bob Dylan song:

 

You may be an ambassador to England or France,
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance,
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world,
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls

But you´re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You´re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you´re gonna have to serve somebody.

You might be a rock ´n´ roll addict prancing on the stage,
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage,
You may be a business man or some high degree thief,
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief

But you´re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You´re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you´re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a state trooper, you might be a young Turk,
You may be the head of some big TV network,
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame,
You may be living in another country under another name

But you´re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You´re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you´re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a construction worker working on a home,
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome,
You might own guns and you might even own tanks,
You might be somebody´s landlord, you might even own banks

But you´re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You´re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you´re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride,
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side,
You may be workin´ in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair,
You may be somebody´s mistress, may be somebody´s heir

But you´re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You´re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you´re gonna have to serve somebody.

Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk,
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk,
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread,
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed

But you´re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You´re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you´re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may call me Terry, you may call me Timmy,
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy,
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray,
You may call me anything but no matter what you say

You´re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You´re gonna have to serve somebody.
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you´re gonna have to serve somebody.

Copyright ©1979 Special Rider Music



Thread: Turkish citizens arrive in UK without visa

704.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:34 pm

Catwoman, the reason why EU and US citizens are asked a visa is based on a principle called reciprocity. It is a hypocratic way of organizing matters so they look right on paper.  For example, Germany requires a visa of Turkish citizens and so does Turkey. As a result, the principle of  mutuality is technically not violated.

 

As for the reason why it has become more difficult for non-Europeans to enter the country: you know Turkey has been (hypocratically) granted the status of accession into European membership. Therefore like all other members, all the legal procedures, regulations, laws and a plethora of other formalities need to go through a process of compliance. Since Turkey will (God knows when) become European land,

non-European people entering the country will in fact enter Europe. Since Europe is quite conservative about its borders, Turkey must be equally conservative.

 

Excuse me but we shouldn´t come to quick conclusions like Turks not being so benevolent... I know they are not at all, but if you criticize Turks in this regard, you are actually criticizing the European stand point..  

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Only the EU and US citizens have ´visa at the airport´ convenience in Turkey. Turks are not so benevolent and lovely to take anybody to their country, because they love diversity. They only give easy visas to people who they believe will spend in Turkey and improve their economy.

I doubt that they would take a person whom they know that the government will have to support and who will only contribute to more social problems that the country can already barely handle.

 

 



Edited (8/23/2009) by vineyards



Thread: Turkish citizens arrive in UK without visa

705.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:16 pm

 The last few messages in this thread seriously need the attention of a moderator. There is no use in keeping messages where people curse one another on a public forum. You could just delete them.

 

Meanwhile, mhsn supertitiz you should really behave yourself or face a ban or other restrictions. If there is a technical shortage in this department, this too should be taken care of. Please act like a gentleman and don´t forget to pay respect to other people sharing this forum. 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

you just described your low self. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 



Thread: Turkish citizens arrive in UK without visa

706.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 12:33 pm

 I see. It is interesting that there should be an influx of Turks when the US economy is going through an economic crisis. One reason pops up in my mind is the statistical find indicating an uneven distribution of ethnicities in the US. There are so many people from certain ethnic backgrounds and too few from others. That is why there is a lottery system in place (as far as I know) that favours nations having smaller communities in the country a.k.a The Green Card System.

 

A while ago I watched a documentary (shot by some US TV) on Turkish minorities in the US cities. It was  claimed that Turkish communities are small and isolated groups with minimal contact with the rest of the society. The documentary also claimed that other minorities (like the Chinese) were threatening security in New York´s Turkish quarter.

 

I have a weird idea that being able to travel around the world must be one of the basic freedoms. There must of course be certain limitations in this. An active society restlessly traveling from one place to another in pursuit of adventure, business and you name what can produce much more compared to a stagnant society where there are restrictions of all sorts at the gates. This has what fueled the immense growth of the US economy since its foundation. 

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 I was referring to the resent influx of Turks to Houston.  There are currently about 15 thousand.  For my husband and I, it is a wonderful thing.  There are many Turkish restaurants, shops, festivals, organizations right in our local area.  We even have a consulate which makes doing paperwork very easy and convenient.  Of course, since I have been married to a Turk, I notice all things Turkish.  They were probably always there, but I just notice them more.  Perhaps for this reason, it seems like an invasion.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

 

 

 



Thread: Turkish citizens arrive in UK without visa

707.       vineyards
1954 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 06:57 pm

I am writing this on the assumption that there is some truth behind every joke...

Not that I am dying to visit the UK myself but aren´t you aware the world is cramming with people from the US, Germany and England? For example, English schools here are full of teachers who hold no licenses, there may be more Russians than there are Turks in Antalya and this is not only true for Turkey. Either through invasion or through other reasons, there are more citizens of aforementioned countries all around the world than the entire population of Turks.

  

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I think the Turks are planning small scale invasions all over the world....seems many have cropped up in Houston....Is this part of your plan to make the world Turkey????

 

 



Edited (8/21/2009) by vineyards
Edited (8/21/2009) by vineyards



Thread: A SINGLE GIRL - AGAINST THE CIGARETTE BAN

708.       vineyards
1954 posts
 13 Aug 2009 Thu 06:19 pm

The government has every right to restrict smoking in public places. Most smokers are listless to the discomfort of other people. There are very strong words in the dictionary which I can use to describe the level of ignorance and rudeness of most smokers but I´ll let it go. Thoughtlessness must be a privilage enjoyed by smokers poisining their own children.

 

 



Thread: Turkish Man Tortured to Death in Belgian Prison

709.       vineyards
1954 posts
 13 Aug 2009 Thu 06:10 pm

 I agree. This is a very inconsiderate joke (in case it is one)...

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I find this comment very discriminatory.  It´s not funny and I am extremely offended by it.  I know you probably don´t care how insulting this is and maybe in your view, you feel GG deserved it, but teasing a woman about menopause (whether she is going thru it or not) is like teasing a man about erectile disfunction (whether he has it or not).  I don´t think we want to go there.   This just isn´t cool or gentlemanly.

 

 



Thread: Man assaulted for missionary activities

710.       vineyards
1954 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 07:17 pm

If you are devoid of reason and common sense, you often stick to a cause to make up for your shortcomings. Generalizing on these matters is equally wrong and just provides for an example to thinking by stimuli. It is impossible to have a sound and profound understanding of the events taking place in society if your equation goes like Turk + knife = freedom lost. True intolerance towards other belief systems has been an age old problem. There are many ways to maim free speech in this matter. The one that was performed by that lunatic in the street is a personal attack caused by the presence of an ignorant group of people within the country and is dwarved in regards of significance by the designs of those waging the war of civilizations.

 

Freedom of speech is controlled by people who are way wiser than this hippy. When you are able to control the stereotypes in people´s minds, you don´t need to run in the streets with a knife in your hand.

 

 



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