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1.       natish
2 posts
 06 Dec 2006 Wed 02:44 pm

Hi. I am russian girl wich marry with turkish man. Now i am living in Istanbul. I dont have a lot of friends here, cause i dont speak turkish well, so.. i am searching people who are in same situation

2.       Loveprague
627 posts
 06 Dec 2006 Wed 03:16 pm

Hi natish
I could be in a similar situation come next summer 2007, my girlfriend is from Istanbul and although I am still in England the best solution is for me to move there, I was thinking same as you that when I move there I would have no friends or anyone to be able to chat with or meet up with, I have of course her friends and family. I have a Russian friend so can speak a little Russian, good luck

3.       natish
2 posts
 06 Dec 2006 Wed 03:26 pm

I communicate with friends of my husband, but it is not enough.. I dont feel myself comfort with them.. Because they are dont have same problems as i have here.. And i need to speak with people who really can understand me..i want to share and discuss problems with people who are too foreign here.. When you will come to Turkey, if you need my help, just write to me.. I think in summer 2007 i will know this country better..

PS. sorry for my english

4.       elainealisonn
46 posts
 06 Dec 2006 Wed 11:25 pm

hi
i know how you feel -- ıt ıs sometımes dıffıcult when you do not speak the language !!! ıf you want to meet up i am ın ıstanbul -- sorry i am not russıan tho!!! but ıf you speak englısh we can have a chat -- send me a prıvate message if you would lıke to. Elaine x

5.       bliss
900 posts
 07 Dec 2006 Thu 11:25 am

Hello Natasha,
I am not in Istanbul but can communicate here with you.
I am russian but far away from Russia. Can be a "real" friend for you and share your problems if you like.
Will be happy to help you.
S serdechnim privetom, Bliss.

6.       CKrager
8 posts
 17 Dec 2006 Sun 01:08 am

Hello (Merhaba)

I moved to turkey monday 11th of december 2006.

I am currently living in tekirdag 60km west of istanbul.

I moved here for a new life after getting tired of england and wanting to enjoy a better life for my self and soak up the turkish culture and life style.

I too have a girlfriend and future wife.
I am currently looking in to getting a 1 year visa and looking in to work permit too.

My first port of call is getting what they call a appartment and then job and at the same time learning turkish with help from my girlfriend.

if any of u wish to talk i am more than happy to try and help.... and would love some advice on subjects i have flagged.

and as a after thought i have a phone i brought from england and placed in a telsim and found out my phone is illegal, if u have any knowledge on how to register my phone so i can use it i would thank u lots.....

7.       azade
1606 posts
 17 Dec 2006 Sun 01:30 am

Good luck with your new life I will be doing something similar in the future.

Concering your phone I'm sorry to say but you need to buy a phone in Turkey. Since last year you had to re-register it or something and pay a small fee to prevent it from closing but in my experience your phone will keep closing no matter how many times you pay the fee.
I don't know why, just that it's something the mobile network companies have come up with it. I'm surprised it's not illegal.

8.       Melnikaite
21 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 11:36 am

Hello Natish.I am from Belarus. I am going to get married in Istanbul in april 2007. Would be nice to chat and meet in reality. U know, I am surprised to see not only russian gilrs married to turks but as well English guys willing to marry a turkish girl

9.       Melnikaite
21 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 11:38 am

Quoting CKrager:

Hello (Merhaba)
I too have a girlfriend and future wife.


Hello, is your girfriend turkish? that means u gonna accept to be a muslim to get married wiz her?

10.       aenigma x
0 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 12:12 pm

Quoting Melnikaite:

Quoting CKrager:

Hello (Merhaba)
I too have a girlfriend and future wife.


Hello, is your girfriend turkish? that means u gonna accept to be a muslim to get married wiz her?



Is that strictly necessary? I don't think so . Don't you think it would be rather hypocritical to change your religion just because you are getting married?!

11.       Melnikaite
21 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 01:12 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Melnikaite:

Quoting CKrager:

Hello (Merhaba)
I too have a girlfriend and future wife.


Hello, is your girfriend turkish? that means u gonna accept to be a muslim to get married wiz her?



Is that strictly necessary? I don't think so . Don't you think it would be rather hypocritical to change your religion just because you are getting married?!


You know, I am also to get married to a turkish man. He told me that turkish girls cant marry christians unless they accept to be muslim.

12.       aenigma x
0 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 01:15 pm

Quoting Melnikaite:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Melnikaite:

Quoting CKrager:

Hello (Merhaba)
I too have a girlfriend and future wife.


Hello, is your girfriend turkish? that means u gonna accept to be a muslim to get married wiz her?



Is that strictly necessary? I don't think so . Don't you think it would be rather hypocritical to change your religion just because you are getting married?!


You know, I am also to get married to a turkish man. He told me that turkish girls cant marry christians unless they accept to be muslim.



I see . But its ok for Turkish man to marry non-muslims I assume?

13.       Melnikaite
21 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 02:59 pm

Quoting my turkish bf - it is not accpted, unless they accept to be muslim. By the way, imam nikah- a religious marriage is also a part of the marriage and it is possible between muslims. So how can you quote the lines from Quran if you are not a muslim?

14.       aenigma x
0 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 03:29 pm

Your boyfriend is generalising - maybe his family are especially religious or from a small village. Whether you MUST become is muslim is only dependent on that his/her parents feel.

As far as I am aware, there is even less religious significance attached to getting married in Turkey than there is in the UK and divorce is commonplace. You can have a civil marriage service if you are a muslim as well.

In my opinion, if you become a muslim SOLELY for the reason to get married and quote lines from the Quran during your marriage service, you are not only being a hyprocrite you are also making a mockery of Islam.

15.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 03:31 pm

Quoting azade:

Good luck with your new life I will be doing something similar in the future.

Concering your phone I'm sorry to say but you need to buy a phone in Turkey. Since last year you had to re-register it or something and pay a small fee to prevent it from closing but in my experience your phone will keep closing no matter how many times you pay the fee.
I don't know why, just that it's something the mobile network companies have come up with it. I'm surprised it's not illegal.



if you have your warrantee papers and pay the customs dutry before you leave this is not a problem,it usually only relates to contract mobile phones, pay a s you go phones are fine as long as you take the warrantee and pay the appropriate customs fees.

16.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 03:33 pm

in answer to previous posts, muslims are not supposed to marry non-muslims and according to the quran should avoid socialising with non-muslims unless it is necessary, however it is not strictly forbidden in islam to marry a non-muslim..just not recommended.

17.       aenigma x
0 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 03:37 pm

Quoting robyn :

in answer to previous posts, muslims are not supposed to marry non-muslims and according to the quran should avoid socialising with non-muslims unless it is necessary, however it is not strictly forbidden in islam to marry a non-muslim..just not recommended.



I think we were talking about Turkish muslims though - I think it is fairly commonplace to marry non-muslims

It certainly seems to be ok if you are a resort waiter wanting a visa - the family suddenly seem to find it acceptable

18.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 03:41 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting robyn :

in answer to previous posts, muslims are not supposed to marry non-muslims and according to the quran should avoid socialising with non-muslims unless it is necessary, however it is not strictly forbidden in islam to marry a non-muslim..just not recommended.



I think we were talking about Turkish muslims though - I think it is fairly commonplace to marry non-muslims

It certainly seems to be ok if you are a resort waiter wanting a visa - the family suddenly seem to find it acceptable



lol..yes..a some of 'real'muslims dont like 'turkish muslims' because they usually don't follow the qoran as strictly.personally i couldnt give two toots what other muslims or non muslims do.its none of my business..
but a lot of turkish muslims marry non-muslims yes, although it is not always resort workers whose families suddenly come round

19.       Melnikaite
21 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:04 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Your boyfriend is generalising - maybe his family are especially religious or from a small village.

My bf works in a bank dealing wiz computer engineeering. He was born in Istanbul. His family is not very religious, they fast during Ramadan.I know many samples of girls being forced to accept islam after marraige. By the way, the kids in international families indicated as MUSLIM regarding their religy. And how can a non muslim mother bring up a future muslim not knwoing the principles of muslim religy?? in the long run she will have to accept islam. I wanna hear opinions of christiam females married to turks

20.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:10 pm

Quoting Melnikaite:

Quoting aenigma x:

Your boyfriend is generalising - maybe his family are especially religious or from a small village.

My bf works in a bank dealing wiz computer engineeering. He was born in Istanbul. His family is not very religious, they fast during Ramadan.I know many samples of girls being forced to accept islam after marraige. By the way, the kids in international families indicated as MUSLIM regarding their religy. And how can a non muslim mother bring up a future muslim not knwoing the principles of muslim religy?? in the long run she will have to accept islam. I wanna hear opinions of christiam females married to turks



i dont know any christian women married to turkish men but i do women that are atheist who are married with turkish men.. and they are happy together despite not belieiving in Islam.and for the record children cannot be forced into Islam, they have to swear into islam of their free will if they so wish when they are old enough..

21.       Melnikaite
21 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:25 pm

Listen, but when a baby is born in Turkey is there any option in recording his religy??? islam for sure

22.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:28 pm

Quoting Melnikaite:

Listen, but when a baby is born in Turkey is there any option in recording his religy??? islam for sure



my baby is not registered as a muslim no.but both me and okkes are muslims..like i said, you can't force islam upon people,children or otherwise.

23.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:51 pm

What happens if a man becomes muslim? Has to be circumcised too? If so... without anesthesia? :-S

24.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:57 pm

Quoting natiypuspi:

What happens if a man becomes muslim? Has to be circumcised too? If so... without anesthesia? :-S



i'm not sure if they can have anaesthesia or not because im not a man but they are circumcised yes..its supposedly a very important and big ceremony

25.       Melnikaite
21 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:58 pm

Robin, I am a freshman in this forum i dont know much details abt your family.What country u r origionally from? Can you tell me why your baby isnt registered as a muslim?

26.       Mary83
178 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:59 pm

Quoting natiypuspi:

What happens if a man becomes muslim? Has to be circumcised too? If so... without anesthesia? :-S




Merhaba natiypuspi!
I think your question is in the wrong topic as it has nothing to do with living or travelling to Turkiye Maybe you should change its place...


Regards,
Maria

27.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 04:59 pm

Quoting Melnikaite:

Robin, I am a freshman in this forum i dont know much details abt your family.What country u r origionally from? Can you tell me why your baby isnt registered as a muslim?



im from the uk, my husband is turkish, my baby is not registered as a muslim because she has not and is not capable of making that decision as yet with her life. all you can do is show children the way..

28.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 05:09 pm

Quoting robyn :



i'm not sure if they can have anaesthesia or not because im not a man but they are circumcised yes..its supposedly a very important and big ceremony



Actually, my question is here because many people were asking if it is a condition becoming muslim to marry a turkish; just this.
I know that is an important ceremony. In my country there are many muslmim comunities but not so many as jews. Anyway, here not so many jews are circumcised. And people who come from muslim countries, most of them become christian with time. And I just wanted to know.

29.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 05:14 pm

Quoting natiypuspi:

Quoting robyn :



i'm not sure if they can have anaesthesia or not because im not a man but they are circumcised yes..its supposedly a very important and big ceremony



Actually, my question is here because many people were asking if it is a condition becoming muslim to marry a turkish; just this.
I know that is an important ceremony. In my country there are many muslmim comunities but not so many as jews. Anyway, here not so many jews are circumcised. And people who come from muslim countries, most of them become christian with time. And I just wanted to know.



i didnt question why ur post was here..mary83 did..

30.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 05:20 pm

Sorry!!! lol

31.       Chantal
587 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 08:02 pm

What is it with registering telephones and all? I've got a Turkcell simcard, and only use it (in my sim-lock free phone) when I'm in Turkey. I have never heard of this registering thing at all, and it's still working!

Please inform me

Chantal

32.       azade
1606 posts
 29 Jan 2007 Mon 09:46 pm

Quoting Chantal:

What is it with registering telephones and all? I've got a Turkcell simcard, and only use it (in my sim-lock free phone) when I'm in Turkey. I have never heard of this registering thing at all, and it's still working!

Please inform me

Chantal



In my experience it happens after a while, probably randomly. My hubby used my old danish phone i Turkey for a while, but then it suddenly closed so we paid the fee (to Turkcell) but it closed again shortly, then opened itself a month after.
I don't understand it but will definitely buy a turkish cell for my turkish simcard when I can afford it.

33.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 01:19 pm

Quoting Chantal:

What is it with registering telephones and all? I've got a Turkcell simcard, and only use it (in my sim-lock free phone) when I'm in Turkey. I have never heard of this registering thing at all, and it's still working!

Please inform me

Chantal



it could be where you have got your phone unlocked or where it was not on a contract before..pay as you go(top up credut mobiles) are usually fine and don't get shut off.

34.       mheart72
73 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 03:27 pm

Quoting robyn :

Quoting Melnikaite:

Quoting aenigma x:

Your boyfriend is generalising - maybe his family are especially religious or from a small village.

My bf works in a bank dealing wiz computer engineeering. He was born in Istanbul. His family is not very religious, they fast during Ramadan.I know many samples of girls being forced to accept islam after marraige. By the way, the kids in international families indicated as MUSLIM regarding their religy. And how can a non muslim mother bring up a future muslim not knwoing the principles of muslim religy?? in the long run she will have to accept islam. I wanna hear opinions of christiam females married to turks



i dont know any christian women married to turkish men but i do women that are atheist who are married with turkish men.. and they are happy together despite not belieiving in Islam.and for the record children cannot be forced into Islam, they have to swear into islam of their free will if they so wish when they are old enough..



I'm a practicing catholic married to a turkish guy. Before we got married thats the first thing i ask him if he will oblige me to convert to muslim/Islam, wear hijab etc. He said no . "Your religion is your religion". Regarding with the kids (insa allah) the kids will be practicing Islam and when they are old enough to choose then they choose either Islam or Catholic.

35.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 03:29 pm

Quoting mheart72:

Quoting robyn :

Quoting Melnikaite:

Quoting aenigma x:

Your boyfriend is generalising - maybe his family are especially religious or from a small village.

My bf works in a bank dealing wiz computer engineeering. He was born in Istanbul. His family is not very religious, they fast during Ramadan.I know many samples of girls being forced to accept islam after marraige. By the way, the kids in international families indicated as MUSLIM regarding their religy. And how can a non muslim mother bring up a future muslim not knwoing the principles of muslim religy?? in the long run she will have to accept islam. I wanna hear opinions of christiam females married to turks



i dont know any christian women married to turkish men but i do women that are atheist who are married with turkish men.. and they are happy together despite not belieiving in Islam.and for the record children cannot be forced into Islam, they have to swear into islam of their free will if they so wish when they are old enough..



I'm a practicing catholic married to a turkish guy. Before we got married thats the first thing i ask him if he will oblige me to convert to muslim/Islam, wear hijab etc. He said no . "Your religion is your religion". Regarding with the kids (insa allah) the kids will be practicing Islam and when they are old enough to choose then they choose either Islam or Catholic.



good for you.and for your husband too far better taht way i think

36.       kai
0 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 03:41 pm

Quoting robyn :

Quoting mheart72:

I'm a practicing catholic married to a turkish guy. Before we got married thats the first thing i ask him if he will oblige me to convert to muslim/Islam, wear hijab etc. He said no . "Your religion is your religion". Regarding with the kids (insa allah) the kids will be practicing Islam and when they are old enough to choose then they choose either Islam or Catholic.



good for you.and for your husband too far better taht way i think



+1! wise words from your husband
No-one should have to change their relationship due to a relationship. They should truly believe in it. Otherwise, like Aenigma said, it's being a hypocrite to the religion because your commitment to the religion is based on false facts.

P.S. Hope you have happy life together

37.       mheart72
73 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:02 pm

Thanks Kai.

I want to be sure before we got married coz my religion is very important to me too as his religion is very important to him. When i go to church he sometimes accompany me.

38.       lovebug
280 posts
 18 Feb 2007 Sun 09:23 pm

mheart72, I am also a Catholic and will be marrying a Turk. He has said the exact same thing to me regarding religion. I have found his family to be very open minded as well. Yilmaz (my fiance) also accompanies me when I visit the Catholic church in Taksim.

I did think it was very cute in funny when he first went in with me we were holding hands and he asked if we could continue to hold hands when we entered the church. He is very accepting and understanding of my faith and I of his and I love that respect for each other.

Best wishes to you and your husband!!!

Lovebug (Wendy)

39.       vineyards
1954 posts
 18 Feb 2007 Sun 09:55 pm

40.       nastica
201 posts
 19 Feb 2007 Mon 12:55 pm

Quoting natish:

Hi. I am russian girl wich marry with turkish man. Now i am living in Istanbul. I dont have a lot of friends here, cause i dont speak turkish well, so.. i am searching people who are in same situation



hey im from moldova, my love life is going to stop in istanbul... i'll contact you when i'll get there

I'm very very happy for you

41.       KeithL
1455 posts
 20 Feb 2007 Tue 01:21 am

Quoting nastica:

hey im from moldova, my love life is going to stop in istanbul... i'll contact you when i'll get there

I'm very very happy for you


what does that mean???

42.       mheart72
73 posts
 20 Feb 2007 Tue 04:31 am

hi lovebug. My husband is in turkey right now serving the army. I havent been to Turkey yet and i havent met his family. Its going to be a little hard for me coz his parents doesnt speak english and i dont speak turkish but i'm looking forward to meeting them. I'll be in turkey this August and i'll stay there for 6 months.

best wishes to you and your turkish family!

43.       fdl
1 posts
 22 Feb 2007 Thu 11:23 pm



Herkese Selamlar (Hi all)

First ,I would like to answer to the Russian lady.
I am sure,there are many russian ladies like u who is getting marry to a Turk.My suggestion is going to be ; after having some couple of Russian friends who lives in Istanbul,why don't you make your own yahoo group (or whatever) for russians living Istanbul.At the beginning you wont have many friends but if you make your own group and put your address here,whoever read it,can join to your group..i know,its a longterm idea but worth to try..eh?!

Sec. I am a Turk,native of Istanbul,living in Italy.My husband is Italian /roman catholic. Even i'm not practicing,i am a muslim as well.We never say anything about our religion,not even mention about any possible problems for our son.The first thing i am teaching to him is that We All Believe in same God with different prophets,different holly books but all says similar (almost).

For my opinion whoever say a Muslim woman can not marry to a nonmuslim,even they do so,not accepted by religion.
I havent read anything like that in Quran yet.Besides,whoever is saying this,they are religous people (which i am not but still believing in my way)This case is nobody's business but mine and btwn me,my husband and God

PEace !

P.s.if i wrote something incorrect,forgive me,i have no time to check it out...

44.       KarTanesi
5 posts
 01 Mar 2007 Thu 02:49 pm

Selamlar Herkese!
I am looking friends from Bursa. I dont have a lot of friends here, cause i dont speak turkish well.

45.       MrX67
2540 posts
 01 Mar 2007 Thu 03:35 pm

Quoting KarTanesi:

Selamlar Herkese!
I am looking friends from Bursa. I dont have a lot of friends here, cause i dont speak turkish well.

hello from Bursa,if ur pass on from cumhuriyet street,welcome to for drink a tea

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