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30.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 05 Apr 2005 Tue 11:53 pm

what is ortodox muslin?
do u mean fundamental?

31.       Seticio
550 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 12:09 am

not fundamental
Do u know AHL AL-KITAB? This means people acceptable to muslimans, christians and judes. Other religions, especially politeistic, are unacceptable. It can be very unpleasant to u, even dangerous in some countries on Middle East (i'm not talking about Turkey), to admit that u are ateist...

32.       Xesc
64 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 12:16 am

Well, i think it depends of the country and the age; remember that, in origin, the peoples of the book were only christian and judes, because their religions are based in the Book (Kitabi Mukaddes), who were allowed to live in muslim lands paying a special tribute; but, Muhammed also made it extensive to parsis (zoroastrians) in Persia, and so, in India, hinduist were allowed to stay and included.

33.       Seticio
550 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 12:27 am

yes u are absolutely right, I know all of that

34.       Lyndie
968 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 12:46 am

Well I can only say that i am glad my friend is not so orthadox, because he means a lot to me and I believe I also mean a lot to him. (we are not lovers if you are wondering.

35.       Seticio
550 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 12:48 am

When I told my turkish friends that I'm ateist they were a bit confused first, but they accepted it ( I hope so )

36.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 01:06 am

in muslumans religion we come to earth because we have an aim..
to pray and believe god forever..
the other world[after death] God asks for some information "what di u u while u r living.tell me why didu wrong/right..u know you actions were sin or u were right..u deserved to go to parodise or u will go to the hell"..[imagination speaking but God will ask what did u do? and its angels will say what happened]"
and if we look at history ottoman empire was managed by turkish people and jewish people were saved by ottoman empire from spain or we took care of christian people to.. ourt managament was so justly.. and ottoman empire and turkish goverment has the same epual distance..
not more closer or further..
turkish people are very friendly against ataist,or jewish..
altough i have several friends that are jewish, ateist etc we dont fight.. instead of fihgting we get deal very well and we respect our opiinons.. that is democracy..
not trivial management..
any objection this??
i told about turkish people not the arabics..

37.       Lyndie
968 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 01:19 am

duskahvesi is right.
My muslim friend (and others)is the most caring person I know. He doesn't judge anyone by what they do or believe, its one of the most compelling things about him and Islam (in Turkey). Ihave met countless Turkish muslims who will go to any lengths to help and befriend people and they don't ask what religion you are or if you believe in God. It makes my friend quite sad that I am not a Muslim because like he said we can only be together in this life. He really believes this and this is sad for him.

Well i'd like to believe in something, but I can't. I think if you have something to believe in strongly then this is a very good thing for you.

38.       Seticio
550 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 01:25 am

U r absolutely right!

39.       bambino
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 06 Apr 2005 Wed 02:28 am

It's funny how easily people throw away God and then are surprised that the world is heading towards hell. It's funny how much we believe in everything that newspapers say but question thoroughly what is said in the Bible. It's funny how much everybody wants to go to heaven but under the condition he won't have to believe, think, talk, or do anything. It's funny how somebody can say 'I believe in God' but still follow evil and satan who by the way also believs in God. It's funny how easily we judge but refuse to be judged. It's funny how obscene, shameless and vulgar news spread easily but talking about God and morality is considered to be a private thing. It's funny how much we are afraid of what other people say about us, but we don't care about what God might think. It's funny how we just stand aside and complain about the fatal situation of the world.

40.       Seticio
550 posts
 06 Apr 2005 Wed 02:43 am

In my opinion, whether somebody believes in something or not is his totally private thing. If somebody's beliefs are honest they are right.

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