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I love how adults make rules for children who than grow up to either hate or feel inferior
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 08:24 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I was only referencing your last post aenigma.
And Cap, a saftey pin in her hair is more dangerous than the spikes they wear on their feet????
The issue is ridiculous, especially at age 11.
The headscarf issue in the western world is totally hypocritical and harassment. |
I'm sorry, but I see real safety issues with it. Navy boats don't allow sailors to wear wedding rings, teachers can't wear opened toed shoes to work, and cooks can't wear shorts. You know in Western society people SUE FOR EVERYTHING!!! Why else do you think they have to tell you how to fasten the safety belt on planes, or point out that the big RED E-X-I-T on the plane actually is the exit. Because some 'morron', Gavi I think here is appropriate, didn't do it correctly and when there was some turbulance fell out of there seat and sued the airline. Or ice-skating rings have to post "FLOOR IS SLIPPERY"... I don't find prejudice here...i find them trying to keep the players safe and avoid a costly lawsuit if something were to happen.
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 08:29 pm |
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KeithL sorry, coz im not really knowledgeable about soccer and its rules. Its just that i saw and read in the newspaper what happened. The guy who was interviewed is a member of FIFA ( i assumed here in Quebec) and he said that there is no specific provision that says wearing hijab is not allowed. Its up to the referee to determine/or how to interpret the provision that says wearing ornaments/things/clothes that may pose a danger to the player itself or other players is not allowed. The Quebec referee believe it is but the Ontario referee dont. Poor girl must be confused.
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 08:34 pm |
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Good for her coach though in pulling the team out of the tournamnet. An excellent role model for his young athletes.
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 08:38 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: Quoting KeithL: I was only referencing your last post aenigma.
And Cap, a saftey pin in her hair is more dangerous than the spikes they wear on their feet????
The issue is ridiculous, especially at age 11.
The headscarf issue in the western world is totally hypocritical and harassment. |
I'm sorry, but I see real safety issues with it. Navy boats don't allow sailors to wear wedding rings, teachers can't wear opened toed shoes to work, and cooks can't wear shorts. You know in Western society people SUE FOR EVERYTHING!!! Why else do you think they have to tell you how to fasten the safety belt on planes, or point out that the big RED E-X-I-T on the plane actually is the exit. Because some 'morron', Gavi I think here is appropriate, didn't do it correctly and when there was some turbulance fell out of there seat and sued the airline. Or ice-skating rings have to post "FLOOR IS SLIPPERY"... I don't find prejudice here...i find them trying to keep the players safe and avoid a costly lawsuit if something were to happen. |
capo don't forget the reason nwhy McDonald;s started putting "Caution- this is hot" on their hot drinks cartons  ..it was common sense if you ask me 
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 08:39 pm |
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other teams pull out of the competition too after that.
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 08:41 pm |
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Quoting mheart72: other teams pull out of the competition too after that. |
There is hope for humanity after all...
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 08:52 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: Quoting KeithL: Why have I never heard of people complain about nuns who wear traditional headress or jews that wear their varieties of head apparel or amish and menonites. I understand the headscarf issue in Turkey because of its fundamental need to be secular. But in Europe and N. America, it is harrassment and double standard. |
Good point...hmmm...still don't know where I stand in regards to on the football pitch...I honestly don't see the big issue. But, the safety one and it's a rule already. The rule wasn't made previously to keep Muslim girls from playing football but with safety in mind. I mean she does have to attach it somehow so it doesn't fall off. Safety pins could be very dangerous and so would elastic lead to possible choking if it falls or were pulled incorrectly. (Sorry it's the teacher in me thinking about all of the possible dangers) Also the idea of such competitions is the bring people together to celebrate the sport not individuality. Which is why in World Cup situations FIFA has a standad uniform regulation whereby teams can express themselves but within strict guidelines.
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Wa alaykum asalaam. dividing line is very thin between healthy competition and tribalistic hatred, violence and bitter "grudge games". This was a game for young girls not a national sports league she was allowed to wear a headscarf all season and play it was only at tournament they decided to remove her from game.
as for the fifa
''World Cup situations FIFA has a standad uniform regulation whereby teams can express themselves but within strict guidelines."
I think George Orwell referred to this when he said, "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting."
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 09:01 pm |
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Quoting gavi:
I think George Orwell referred to this when he said, "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." |
Ok Gavi, first the 'morron' comment and now the George Orwell quote....
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 09:05 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: Quoting gavi:
I think George Orwell referred to this when he said, "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." |
Ok Gavi, first the 'morron' comment and now the George Orwell quote.... |
did you want to change this to last post on this forum wins..............hahaha
you miss the point this was a girl a young girl at an impressionable age ready to be the next leading generation of society......... oh and I said moronic .....
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 09:06 pm |
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Quoting gavi: Quoting Capoeira: Quoting KeithL: Why have I never heard of people complain about nuns who wear traditional headress or jews that wear their varieties of head apparel or amish and menonites. I understand the headscarf issue in Turkey because of its fundamental need to be secular. But in Europe and N. America, it is harrassment and double standard. |
Good point...hmmm...still don't know where I stand in regards to on the football pitch...I honestly don't see the big issue. But, the safety one and it's a rule already. The rule wasn't made previously to keep Muslim girls from playing football but with safety in mind. I mean she does have to attach it somehow so it doesn't fall off. Safety pins could be very dangerous and so would elastic lead to possible choking if it falls or were pulled incorrectly. (Sorry it's the teacher in me thinking about all of the possible dangers) Also the idea of such competitions is the bring people together to celebrate the sport not individuality. Which is why in World Cup situations FIFA has a standad uniform regulation whereby teams can express themselves but within strict guidelines.
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Wa alaykum asalaam. dividing line is very thin between healthy competition and tribalistic hatred, violence and bitter "grudge games". This was a game for young girls not a national sports league she was allowed to wear a headscarf all season and play it was only at tournament they decided to remove her from game.
as for the fifa
''World Cup situations FIFA has a standad uniform regulation whereby teams can express themselves but within strict guidelines."
I think George Orwell referred to this when he said, "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting."
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i thought you said this was not a serious sport game..it was a young girls game..anyway...
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 09:21 pm |
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Quoting gavi: Quoting gavi: Quoting Capoeira: Quoting gavi:
I think George Orwell referred to this when he said, "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." |
Ok Gavi, first the 'morron' comment and now the George Orwell quote.... |
did you want to change this to last post on this forum wins..............hahaha
you miss the point this was a girl a young girl at an impressionable age ready to be the next leading generation of society......... |
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Somehow you lost your chance at being taken seriously when you started calling people 'morrons'. I am always sarcastic and have nothing to gain or win from a back and forth banter with you. Please go ahead and try and beat the other members to the last word. I for one am not concerned about that...there will be other threads and other posts to comment on another day.
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