Quoting mltm:

what do you want to say in english?

Quoting bod:

Sorry if this seems tedious, but I am very conscious that it would be very easy for me to learn the basics of sentence construction wrongly. And that if I were to get it wrong at this early stage then it will be very difficult to 'unlearn'.

Does this make sense?

"Gibson, sen bir köpek yaramazmasın, bağ Floss yaramazsın"

Quoting mltm:

somethings like this:
Gibson you are a dog ...... Floss you're naughty.

what's bağ?

Quoting bod:

Quoting mltm:

yaramaz is adjective so you put it before the noun and we put "bir" between the adjective and noun.

when you want to make a verb negative, you put -mamak or -memek. but for things like:
I'm not fine: iyi değilim.
I'm not naughty: yaramaz değilim.
we use "değil"

Quoting mltm:

yes, always. but try as much as possible and post them here, and we approve or correct them.
promise we won't laugh at you

Quoting Elisa:

What about this one:

"Sonra akşam yemeği için bir kız arkadaşımın eviye gidiyorum."

Quoting cyrano:

Quoting Elisa:

I think this is a very good idea, post a sentence that we think is correct/doubt if it is correct, and see if native Turkish speakers can understand what we mean.

What about this one:

"Sonra akşam yemeği için bir kız arkadaşımın eviye gidiyorum."

Quoting mltm:

Quoting mltm:

Quoting Elisa:

I meant: "Later I am going to a friend's (a girl in this case) house for dinner"
What should I have written then to make clear that it is "a friend of mine" and not "my friend"? I thought the first would be "bir arkadasim" and the second "arkadasim".
This is what I'm struggling with sometimes, the fusion consonants Would you be so kind to explain to me why it is "evine" and not "eviye"?
Thanks mltm!

Elisa

Quoting bod:

eeek!!!

It is sentences like this that make me think that I will nver learn Turkish!!!!
I know all the words but it seems like you have thrown them into a hat and pulled the out into a random order......

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting Natlisa:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting mltm:

in fact you said well in turkish "bir kız arkadaşımın evi", "a girl friend of mine". Sorry

The problem is just with evi-n-e
Yes, why is it n and not y? I don't have a good explanation for that now My only explanation is like this for now :

to the door = kapı-y-a
his/her door = kapısı
to his/her door = kapısı-n-a

to the house = ev-e
his/her house = evi
to his/her house = evi-n-e

Quoting bod:

Quoting mltm:

Quoting Elisa:

Or is it evideyim?

I am losing it, I am losing it, aarhg!!

Quoting SuiGeneris:

hmmm i am at her house doesnt mean onun evindeyim? huh?

Quoting Elisa:

Hi guys

You will start thinking that I'm a pain in the a**, but where does that 'n' in evinde come from now all of a sudden?
I had calmed down a bit already and I was thinking that it would be 'Arkadasimin evi-de-y-im", '-de' to show a location, 'y' because there are two vowels and '-im' as the first person of 'olmak'. But that 'n'? Where does that come from?

Cok cok sagol!

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting mltm:

Elisa, you're asking too difficult questions even to a native speaker hehe :

Quoting mltm:

can I say that it's like that because it's like that.

ev-i (her house)
ev-i-n-de (at her house)
ev-i-n-e (to her house)
ev-i-n-den (from her house)
ev-i-n-i (direct object suffix like in "evini gördüm"I saw her house)

ev-im (my house)
ev-im-de
ev-im-e
ev-im-i

so "n" is a letter that's always put after the -i that's the suffix of the second person possessive.

Quoting Elisa:

I guess it's another one of those things that I just have to learn and accept and not look for a reason why it is used.

Quoting bod:

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting Elisa:

A fusion consonant is added because two vowels come together. The first vowel is part of another suffix though, so -n instead of -y is added. So "...eviNe gidiyorum" ama "kediYe gidiyorum".

Quoting bod:

Quoting Elisa:

No. For example, when you say, "I'm going to the coast", you say "Kıyıya gidiyorum". To add the direction suffix e/a to a word that ends with a vowel, you'll always have to use -y- as a fusion consonant. However, when that last vowel belongs to a (possessive) suffix (-i/-si) that is already added to the word, you will have to use -n- as a fusion consonant. The adding of this -n- applies to all words ending with a vowel of another suffix. So the rule stays consistent. Example: "Annenin arabasına gidiyorum", "I'm going to mother's car". There will never be a time where the -n- will change to an -s- or a -y- for example for these kind of words. At least, that's how I understood it. There might be an occasional exception, but I don't think we have to break our heads on those for now.
I leave it to the pro's here to correct me if I'm wrong of course