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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:26 pm |
Quoting eddie: As far as Christians are concerned.....It is a CHOICE to
attend services....not a law. To 'Keep Holy the Lords's
Day' is does not mean a phyisical presence inside a building.
It is a commandment to fast and pray. Where one does this
is their choice....so many CANNOT attend.
Catholics are 'christians' also but they have 'rules' concerning being present at Mass on Sundays....
Christians have no such religious rules..just the Bible.
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Catholics are obligated to go to church EVERY Sunday.
There are a myriad of other RULES that must be followed as well. Please don't post something as fact if you don't know. Many Christian sects are required to attend church.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:31 pm |
Quoting KeithL: Turkey is over 99% muslim of course. And throughout the country, there are regions that are more religous than others. In Istanbul, Beyoglu and Taksim are know for nightlife. Everyone knows this, practicing muslims and non-practicing muslims alike know this. So anyone that chooses to visit this area (even during Ramazan), they should expect to see people that are not fasting.
I do agree that you should respect the area that you are in. Most areas of Istanbul, it would not be appropriate during Ramazan to drink water, smoke or eat in public. But Istiklal is not one of these places.... |
What is respect got to do with it?
Or what is area got to do with it?
or what is 99% got to do with it?
It is a secular state. I have right to eat or smoke anywhere at anytime. And the state is responsible to give me that freedom.
What are you going to if they say 'no..we dont like skirts on the streets, because they are offending my religion' or 'no.. you cant walk on the street during pray times. Because offending my religion'.
Religion is between the person and what they believe. It is as simple as that.
I dont believe the guy drinking in Taksim should be seen as as a person that disrespects the religion.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:33 pm |
thehandsom,
Read the forums maybe before posting. A question was asked and I answered it...
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:33 pm |
Yes....they have what is called a 'Catechism'. This catechism, among many things - outlines Church laws and
Traditions that a Catholic must adhere to.
In this Catechism , one will find all the 'rules, tradtions,
suggestions,etc to remain a 'good Catholic'.
They follow many traditions instituted by the Mageisterium
formed hundreds of years ago by the Pontiffs ( popes ) and
Bishops,...etc....
Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:35 pm |
Quote: What is respect got to do with it?
Or what is area got to do with it?
or what is 99% got to do with it?
It is a secular state. I have right to eat or smoke anywhere at anytime. And the state is responsible to give me that freedom.
What are you going to if they say 'no..we dont like skirts on the streets, because they are offending my religion' or 'no.. you cant walk on the street during pray times. Because offending my religion'.
Religion is between the person and what they believe. It is as simple as that.
I dont believe the guy drinking in Taksim should be seen as as a person that disrespects the religion.
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+100000000 Well said...
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:35 pm |
It's terrible.I hope they werent real police officers.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:37 pm |
Quoting eddie: Yes....they have what is called a 'Catechism'. This catechism, among many things - outlines Church laws and
Traditions that a Catholic must adhere to.
In this Catechism , one will find all the 'rules, tradtions,
suggestions,etc to remain a 'good Catholic'.
They follow many traditions instituted by the Mageisterium
formed hundreds of years ago by the Pontiffs ( popes ) and
Bishops,...etc....
Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one. |
Actually,,,church law is call "cannon law". Church education is called "catechism"
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:37 pm |
Quoting eddie: Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one. |
I'm going to take a wild guess here but I bet you like George Bush. Am I wrong?
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:37 pm |
Quoting thehandsom: What is respect got to do with it?
Or what is area got to do with it?
or what is 99% got to do with it?
It is a secular state. I have right to eat or smoke anywhere at anytime. And the state is responsible to give me that freedom.
What are you going to if they say 'no..we dont like skirts on the streets, because they are offending my religion' or 'no.. you cant walk on the street during pray times. Because offending my religion'.
Religion is between the person and what they believe. It is as simple as that.
I dont believe the guy drinking in Taksim should be seen as as a person that disrespects the religion.
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+ 10000000
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:40 pm |
Quoting eddie: Yes....they have what is called a 'Catechism'. This catechism, among many things - outlines Church laws and
Traditions that a Catholic must adhere to.
In this Catechism , one will find all the 'rules, tradtions,
suggestions,etc to remain a 'good Catholic'.
They follow many traditions instituted by the Mageisterium
formed hundreds of years ago by the Pontiffs ( popes ) and
Bishops,...etc....
Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one. |
Sorry Eddie, but you're talking nonsense. Even as an ex-catholic I know there are many rules and laws to obey within the several protestant churches. And you dare to call 'Christianity' not a religion? Talking about respect....
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 08:42 pm |
Welcome to the death of civil rights now as it is happening in Iraq for some years now! That's just the beginning Turikish friends and who knows what is coming later?
These everythings including killings in the sake of God in Iraq... you know what was Iraq before 30 years ago?
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