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Erdogan's AK Parti Storm Troopers
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:04 pm |
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as Alameda said, i didn't find no other trace of the news, either, except for the webpage where the english version was posted. I hope this was just a tendencious introduction (although this can be as well acceptable) of an article and that this is an isolated incident, and not a sign of loosing freedom and of future violations of rights.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:05 pm |
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as I said, it was only a wild guess....
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:17 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting eddie: Yes....they have what is called a 'Catechism'. This catechism, among many things - outlines Church laws and
Traditions that a Catholic must adhere to.
In this Catechism , one will find all the 'rules, tradtions,
suggestions,etc to remain a 'good Catholic'.
They follow many traditions instituted by the Mageisterium
formed hundreds of years ago by the Pontiffs ( popes ) and
Bishops,...etc....
Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one. |
Actually,,,church law is call "cannon law". Church education is called "catechism" |
You are correct. As an ex-Cath I was engrained in the
'Catechism' as a child and further.
Common people do not involve themselves with actual Canon law...or Ecclesiastical Decrees. The Catechism was indeed
their instruction booklet. In this you will find mortal
sins, venial sins and their differences...etc.
Just an example. Thank you for your clarification.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:19 pm |
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Quoting eddie:
Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one. |
I think that you are melting catholocisim, christian mistycal and phylosophical approach with christianity itself.
Christianity is the religion, catholicism is a denomination just as ortodoxism, protestantism and the rest.
Every relationship with God is a personal one, transmitted, shared through philosophycal/theological and mystical writings...
In essence, it is the aim of every religion to build a strong relationship with divinity.
I think what you said about christianism being no religion illustrates your approach to God through christianism, and more than that, a very personalized approach...  .
As much as beautiful, but it is your approach.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:31 pm |
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Quoting portokal: Quoting eddie:
Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one. |
I think that you are melting catholocisim, christian mistycal and phylosophical approach with christianity itself.
Christianity is the religion, catholicism is a denomination just as ortodoxism, protestantism and the rest.
Every relationship with God is a personal one, transmitted, shared through philosophycal/theological and mystical writings...
In essence, it is the aim of every religion to build a strong relationship with divinity.
I think what you said about christianism being no religion illustrates your approach to God through christianism, and more than that, a very personalized approach... .
As much as beautiful, but it is your approach. |
There is a diversity of doctrines and practices among groups calling themselves Christian. These groups are sometimes classified under denominations, though for theological reasons many groups reject this classification system. Christianity may be broadly represented as being divided into three main groupings:
Roman Catholicism
Eastern Orthodoxy
Protestantism
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:37 pm |
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It appears incidents of authority abuse are increasing world wide. Anytime you have a situation where someone is in a position of power, and someone who challenges them, things happen.
I'm posting these because I'm aware of them, seeing as I live in the US. Please do not take this as a show of anti-Western-ism.
Cnn Your opinion: Reaction to police using Taser on student
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/studentnews/09/20/student.tasered.your.opinion/
Tasered Ohio Woman Describes Agony
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/25/national/main3294648.shtml?source=mostpop_story
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:47 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting portokal: Quoting eddie:
Catholicism is a 'Religion'...
Christianity is not ...it is a Relationship with God - a very personal one. |
I think that you are melting catholocisim, christian mistycal and phylosophical approach with christianity itself.
Christianity is the religion, catholicism is a denomination just as ortodoxism, protestantism and the rest.
Every relationship with God is a personal one, transmitted, shared through philosophycal/theological and mystical writings...
In essence, it is the aim of every religion to build a strong relationship with divinity.
I think what you said about christianism being no religion illustrates your approach to God through christianism, and more than that, a very personalized approach... .
As much as beautiful, but it is your approach. |
There is a diversity of doctrines and practices among groups calling themselves Christian. These groups are sometimes classified under denominations, though for theological reasons many groups reject this classification system. Christianity may be broadly represented as being divided into three main groupings:
Roman Catholicism
Eastern Orthodoxy
Protestantism
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Well said and more...Thank you
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:47 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting KeithL: Turkey is over 99% muslim of course. And throughout the country, there are regions that are more religous than others. In Istanbul, Beyoglu and Taksim are know for nightlife. Everyone knows this, practicing muslims and non-practicing muslims alike know this. So anyone that chooses to visit this area (even during Ramazan), they should expect to see people that are not fasting.
I do agree that you should respect the area that you are in. Most areas of Istanbul, it would not be appropriate during Ramazan to drink water, smoke or eat in public. But Istiklal is not one of these places.... |
What is respect got to do with it?
Or what is area got to do with it?
or what is 99% got to do with it?
It is a secular state. I have right to eat or smoke anywhere at anytime. And the state is responsible to give me that freedom.
What are you going to if they say 'no..we dont like skirts on the streets, because they are offending my religion' or 'no.. you cant walk on the street during pray times. Because offending my religion'.
Religion is between the person and what they believe. It is as simple as that.
I dont believe the guy drinking in Taksim should be seen as as a person that disrespects the religion.
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İ believe KeithL here meant respect for people themselves not for religion..
First,secular state or not secular state,what keithL has posted here it has NOTHİNG to do with religion nor İslam.
There is no Ayat,NOTHİNG in İslam gives anyone the right to judge and punish anyone for order or something between the person and ALLAH.
İ mean,Praying Fasting,Paying Zakat,Hej,and even being Muslim is something between the person and ALLAH,NO one has the authority to judge and punish such actions.
So,if i dont pray,they can drag me to jail ?!
Thats absurd !
But of course there is respect,and that is between people and each others,out of kind feelings toword eachothers.
İ mean here we are not %99 Muslims,we are about %80 Muslims and %20 Christians living together.
And when Ramadan comes,Muslims dont eat,and Christians do of course,but if there are colleagues standing together,at school,Uni,work or something,you wouldnt find any Christian eating infront of Muslims even if it is lunch time,they do it while not being with Muslims,and at same times Muslims try to give them their privacy at that times so they wont feel bad while they are eating and their Muslim colleagues dont.
That is respect between people,no religion ordered it,but its coming from our human nature ,and its a lovely thing of course.
İslam doesnt say to judge or punish people for what they do or for what they wear,its their personal choice and they will carry its burden infront of ALLAH at the end of days.
And if AK Parti follow what İslam says,then they wouldnt agree on such actions which is far away from İslam.
And please,dont accuse religion for any actions made by anyone and say see that is what religions brought us !
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:51 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: as I said, it was only a wild guess.... |
Yes, and I think that the big question is whether this incident will be properly punished. If it will then we can say that similar incidents happen everywhere and the rule of law is upheld.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:53 pm |
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Quoting alameda: It appears incidents of authority abuse are increasing world wide. Anytime you have a situation where someone is in a position of power, and someone who challenges them, things happen.
I'm posting these because I'm aware of them, seeing as I live in the US. Please do not take this as a show of anti-Western-ism.
Cnn Your opinion: Reaction to police using Taser on student
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/studentnews/09/20/student.tasered.your.opinion/
Tasered Ohio Woman Describes Agony
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/25/national/main3294648.shtml?source=mostpop_story[/QUOTE
Just like any other officials, you have good police and bad police. Some police believe their above the law and others do protect and serve the public. It's scary looking at these clips and I know exactley where this happened, in the state I live in.
You want to believe that police officers are role models for our children and respected by the public. But then like anything else you have a few crooked cops and you don't know who to trust.
But overall I believe you do have to trust people in this world and hopefully this officer will be fired. But then again there is the judical system and I don't have too much faith in them either. |
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:54 pm |
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