I think, although he was saying nice things but, in the end, he was singing 'arabesk' for left wing people..

Outstanding musician and voice.

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Actually i was asking about arabesk music not about Ahmet Kaya

I think arabesk music is more than a music. It is culture. It is a sub culture.
In Turkey, arabesk, somehow, represents the village culture being carried into cities. or people come to big cities from their villages and try to fit there. it is the culture they live in.
I will write more on the topic...continued

Silence all, pls

A grand lady is singing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j_nubpvg7Y&feature=related

I think arabesk music is more than a music. It is culture. it is a sub culture.
In Turkey, it, somehow, represents the village culture being carried into cities. or people come to big cities from their villages and try to fit there. it is the culture they live in.

Cultural differences between big cities and the villages in Turkey are enourmous. When you live in Istanbul, you may feel like you in a western city but on the other hand, if you live in a village in the east of turkey, it is like living in another century.
And when you think of the immigration to big cities from those villages, you may have an idea of what cultural shock they might have. It is impossible to think that they will integrate easily into city culture. They feel like they are outsiders. They feel in a way they dont belong to that culture. It is the feudel culture they used to live in..But city culture is different.
They used to listen folk music like this arif sag, however city people would listen to turkish art music zeki muren or turkish pop music tarkan.
So what happened was these masses could not find the music which would fit into the life they were living. Then came arabesk. orhan gencebay or ferdi tayfur are typical examples for arabesk music.( Born in end of 1950, begining of 1960s)
What is wrong with arabesk then?
Well..First of all it is temporary. It should go away as soon as cultural differences, coming from internal immigration are gone. Secondly, in arabesk music is very pessimistic about every aspect of life. Love in arabesk music can never have happy ending for example. There is always, most of the time self inflicted, pain in that music . According to arabesk themes everything is unjust, unfair, sometimes, not worth living the life at all.
Music should give people some pleasure, something else than the pain and sarrow.
But arabesk music does not.

Listen to this piece of Egyptian music. To my ears there is a similarity.

Abdel halim Hafiz

That link is a little long.....

Hobbak Nar

they say music is universal and i think thats not a true recognize,same tune can give big big pleasure for someone while thats only a dirty voice for another one's ears.So i think music is very relative and depend on social,cultural and economic conditions.So Arabesk is the inalienable music of the part of a whole society.And Ahmet Kaya was one of the hit of Turkish protest music,and he was a great musician whatever his political opinions were...

Well... Turkish Music is not about arabesk only...

you better listen to this

Vedat Sakman