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TLC Website Poll
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 12:44 am |
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Quoting girleegirl: YES!!! |
Are you sure 
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 12:53 am |
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YES ABSOLUTELY...
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 01:15 am |
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'NO' from me.
Actually, I have a feeling that some of my posts might be part of the reason why some people feel the site is more 'anti Turkish and anti islam'.
well..
If you think, the 'empty nationalism' is turkish and not being in the herd is anti-turkish;
if you think, supporting 'army's involvement in politics' is turkish but critising it anti-turkish;
if you think, 'pure racism' is turkish and 'being against' it is anti-turkish;
if you think, 'supporting islam as a regime' is turkish and 'being against' is anti-turkish;
if you think saying 'our eastern problem can be only solved by incursions' is turkish and 'hey. we did it nth times but no solution so far' is anti-turkish.
if you say 'islam gives more freedom to women' is islamic but saying 'show it to me where' is anti islamic..
Then..
well..
let it be..
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 07:56 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: 'NO' from me.
Actually, I have a feeling that some of my posts might be part of the reason why some people feel the site is more 'anti Turkish and anti islam'.
well..
If you think, the 'empty nationalism' is turkish and not being in the herd is anti-turkish;
if you think, supporting 'army's involvement in politics' is turkish but critising it anti-turkish;
if you think, 'pure racism' is turkish and 'being against' it is anti-turkish;
if you think, 'supporting islam as a regime' is turkish and 'being against' is anti-turkish;
if you think saying 'our eastern problem can be only solved by incursions' is turkish and 'hey. we did it nth times but no solution so far' is anti-turkish.
if you say 'islam gives more freedom to women' is islamic but saying 'show it to me where' is anti islamic..
Then..
well..
let it be..
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precisely!
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 08:48 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting thehandsom: 'NO' from me.
Actually, I have a feeling that some of my posts might be part of the reason why some people feel the site is more 'anti Turkish and anti islam'.
well..
If you think, the 'empty nationalism' is turkish and not being in the herd is anti-turkish;
if you think, supporting 'army's involvement in politics' is turkish but critising it anti-turkish;
if you think, 'pure racism' is turkish and 'being against' it is anti-turkish;
if you think, 'supporting islam as a regime' is turkish and 'being against' is anti-turkish;
if you think saying 'our eastern problem can be only solved by incursions' is turkish and 'hey. we did it nth times but no solution so far' is anti-turkish.
if you say 'islam gives more freedom to women' is islamic but saying 'show it to me where' is anti islamic..
Then..
well..
let it be..
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I agree completely!
I vote NO! 
...criticism is healthy...it helps development! ...when I hear argument like 'I was raised thinking like this or raised to believe like that' and there for go on arguing from that point of view I feel pity for those persons... 
...self criticism is even better!  I do recommend it! 
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 09:57 am |
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i agree with that criticism is healthy...it helps development, but altough i will say YES ,i am a TC user for almost two years and i can say the site has changed so much and it tends to be anti turk and anti islam ,so i hope we will focus on its original purpose (LEARNING TURKISH LANGUAGE)so we can not judge those poeple when we are sometimes so far away from thier culture, religion,tradition and even beliefes.
and its still only my view.
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 10:19 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: 'NO' from me.
If you think, the 'empty nationalism' is turkish and not being in the herd is anti-turkish;
if you think, supporting 'army's involvement in politics' is turkish but critising it anti-turkish;
if you think, 'pure racism' is turkish and 'being against' it is anti-turkish;
if you think, 'supporting islam as a regime' is turkish and 'being against' is anti-turkish;
if you think saying 'our eastern problem can be only solved by incursions' is turkish and 'hey. we did it nth times but no solution so far' is anti-turkish.
if you say 'islam gives more freedom to women' is islamic but saying 'show it to me where' is anti islamic..
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Agreed!
I vote NO to Keithl's question.
Turkey is a beautiful country with interesting culture, most of us love going there or even decided to learn the language. That's why we joined this site. But Liking a country does not have to mean worshipping it or turning a blind eye to he bad things going on there.
It is similar with Islam. I don't find expressing doubt about women's rights in Islam being anti-Islamic.
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 02:27 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: I vote NO to Keithl's question.
Turkey is a beautiful country with interesting culture, most of us love going there or even decided to learn the language. That's why we joined this site. But Liking a country does not have to mean worshipping it or turning a blind eye to he bad things going on there.
It is similar with Islam. I don't find expressing doubt about women's rights in Islam being anti-Islamic. |
Exactly.... I thought this was kind of obvious... but apparently not for everybody.
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 02:32 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: I thought this was kind of obvious... but apparently not for everybody. |
Actually, it was clear who was gonna give which answer anyway.
As Hanan said though, TC has changed. But if you ask me, in many aspects for the better!
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 02:50 pm |
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Exactly, besides, some of us have been here long enough to have already discussed interesting sites, food, clothes etc. If you don't believe me - search the archives. We talked about holidays, behaviour, music. We even discussed shaving. Is it possible to go on about these things forever? Lots of language tips were given and are still available in the Language forum. If somebody has a language question they should post it instead of complaining that nobody discusses language here. The thing is, not many users are active in the forum. Those who are usually have known each other for a long time so instead of discussing language questions on board, we ask them by PMs and are sure to get a straightforward, personal explanation 
Now Keith is going to kill me for getting off topic...
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12 Mar 2008 Wed 02:52 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Actually, it was clear who was gonna give which answer anyway.
As Hanan said though, TC has changed. But if you ask me, in many aspects for the better! |
Yes, the web site is changing continuously - people are coming and going. Some people are more critical of Islam and/or Turkey, some are less, but what upsets certain people here is that there is any criticism in the first place. They apparently expect praise and worship and get angry because of any kind of debates. Then of course we are called anti-Turkish because we don't participate in blind worship... :-S Of course there are things we love about Turkey, that's why we are here. That doesn't mean we have to like everything. And when it comes to Islam, if muslims are truly so against the evil of the world, I don't understand why it's so difficult for them to be against the evil done by muslims... that sounds like hypocricy to me.
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