Quoting thehandsom:

so..have the rules changed again?

Quoting caliptrix:

I want to make an offer about religious topics. If someone wants to say something in his mind, he must put a prove such as a reference link that what he says is really in the religion and really related to Turkey. But the reference must be acredited, or at least not provokable, improper and unacceptable. And then he can say what he thinks about that practice or idea without saying as if that religious idea or practice were 'funny'; and the critisizing words must not contain offhand or saucy feelings.

Quoting caliptrix:

But I want to say something to catwoman:
As far as I see, you made comments like this: 'you muslims see every critisize as if they were bad words'. Actually, you (yourself) see the bad words as critics even though everone can see clearly that many of these type posts were trying to say 'what you believe is only stupid, unacceptable, not even thinkable/meaningful/reasonable ideas' even though this ideas are hidden inside of the lines. I am very very serious about this. If the words contain saucy impressions, they can't be told 'critics'.

Quoting caliptrix:

Or let's do this issue like this much more simply: Everyone can post religious texts only;
- without comment
- with the reference if it is an acceptable source about religion
- the ideas if it is really related to Turkey or Turkish culture

Quoting alameda:

I'd like to add to this: no discussion of Turkish delicate internal issues. Turkish ethnic issues, in particular, are difficult to know about and understand. Unless one is Turkish, or at least has spent extensive amount of time there, it's doubtful a constructive and informed opinion is forthcoming. The offering of uninformed opinions just adds confusion and chaos to the situation.

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A lot of people have left this site, they have either asked to be deleted, or they have just left with no comments. I myself do not come here to get involved in debates on sensitive issues. I came here to learn Turkish language, find out more about Turkish music and food. I do not come here to get into religious debates and political arguments.

Quoting Daydreamer:

......And she just can't let go, can she? For whoever's sake! Wake up girl! This site has changed and your moaning and whining added to it. The result now is that nobody talks about anything. Even you come here to comment only on threads that talk about freedom of speech in this site. If you come here only to learn Turkish and find out about food and music it's your choice. Some people have interests that go beyond kitchen! And you're trying to make everybody talk only about your hobbies. Not really fair, is it? I learn language as well but I don't care about 99 ways of grilling eggplants. Instead, I love exchanging ideas about this world and religions with people from all over the world, people I have no chance of meeting every day. And you're telling me that I should either talk about cooking or not talk at all...that's really low...

Quoting alameda:

I agree with this 100%. There has been way too much posting of things purported to be Islamic by those who know little about the reality. They are posting opinions as the truth. Theological studies are a very complicated subject.

Quoting alameda:

I'd like to add to this: no discussion of Turkish delicate internal issues. Turkish ethnic issues, in particular, are difficult to know about and understand. Unless one is Turkish, or at least has spent extensive amount of time there, it's doubtful a constructive and informed opinion is forthcoming. The offering of uninformed opinions just adds confusion and chaos to the situation.

Quoting alameda:

My post was only up a few minutes before you posted your response. That was not much time to actually read and deliberate on my thoughts.

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting teaschip1:

Well of course GG, that all depends has Daydreamer lived in Turkey for more than 3+ years? She may not have met the qualifications to post an opinion.