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The over use of abbreviated English
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23 Apr 2008 Wed 11:40 pm |
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Quoting sonunda: I expressed my opinion-you are entitled to yours,incişka.
But it still drives me crazy!! |
I know I am 
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23 Apr 2008 Wed 11:50 pm |
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Quoting libralady: I can tell you using text talk (not abbreviations as they are different and recognised in English) causes a problem in business as youngsters used to using text talk cannot communicate in letter, emails properly and professionaly. |
A youngster who is responsible enough for his/her learning would know the difference between two. It depends on the purpose of their learning. If they learn English just because they want to make friends (most probably girlfriends) dont expect any professional or academic writing from them! And I dont think they would even want to write something professional or academic! No problems for me! I can write both in formal and informal style Learning a foreign language and using is fun, but strictly sticking to the rules may make it boring! It's better to learn "good" language first, but then talk it/write the way you like
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24 Apr 2008 Thu 06:34 am |
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Quoting incişka: Quoting libralady: I can tell you using text talk (not abbreviations as they are different and recognised in English) causes a problem in business as youngsters used to using text talk cannot communicate in letter, emails properly and professionaly. |
A youngster who is responsible enough for his/her learning would know the difference between two. It depends on the purpose of their learning. If they learn English just because they want to make friends (most probably girlfriends) dont expect any professional or academic writing from them! And I dont think they would even want to write something professional or academic! No problems for me! I can write both in formal and informal style Learning a foreign language and using is fun, but strictly sticking to the rules may make it boring! It's better to learn 'good' language first, but then talk it/write the way you like |
Well, I agree in parts and disagree in others... Language should be learnt completely and with all its rules before even try to use it in the 'text message way', yes everyone is resposible for the use of the language and if someone wants to use it in its non-regular way because they are young or whatever reason, they can. But i have to say short ways of words can be confusing for people that wants to improve or learn, and although they have to learn it to understand it, bad use of the language contributes to its own deformation, not evolution, but deformation... Anyway we are in a learn-a-language website we should try our best to learn the correct form of it, and leave short-chat to cell text messaging and other ways of communication... I have to end up saying, yes i dont like short words neither in english nor turkish... I prefer the correct way of words and sentences...
 
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24 Apr 2008 Thu 08:10 am |
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I hate to see chat/text language in normal messages! Sorry to say but I think using it is a lack of communication!
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24 Apr 2008 Thu 09:53 am |
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I have to admit I'm guilty of using the "u" form in IMs and text messages but only because it saves time and space. I hate seeing people post in forums using this language. "U" is the smallest problem, "any1" "B4" or "RU" drive me mad!
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24 Apr 2008 Thu 11:57 pm |
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Quoting incişka: Quoting libralady: I can tell you using text talk (not abbreviations as they are different and recognised in English) causes a problem in business as youngsters used to using text talk cannot communicate in letter, emails properly and professionaly. |
A youngster who is responsible enough for his/her learning would know the difference between two. It depends on the purpose of their learning. If they learn English just because they want to make friends (most probably girlfriends) dont expect any professional or academic writing from them! And I dont think they would even want to write something professional or academic! No problems for me! I can write both in formal and informal style Learning a foreign language and using is fun, but strictly sticking to the rules may make it boring! It's better to learn "good" language first, but then talk it/write the way you like |
I know what you are saying but when they can't complete an exam paper, or fill in an application form it is a problem! Sadly they are not as intellegent as you but are able to learn text talk and unable to write in their own language when it is required!
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25 Apr 2008 Fri 02:39 am |
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İ agree its destroying the English language,specially between the youth who get used to it and become lazy to use the formal forms of the language specialy that English is a world wide language so still everyone will understand him/her,so why bother !
İ remember a year ago i gave a British member here a link to English dictionary so she would be able to use the right words !
İ got that dictionary by googling mean while she didnt bother to google because she knew she will be understood.
But still its driving me crazy that i had to check every word i doubt it before posting it,mean while an English native speaker make many spelling and grammar mistakes,and feel ok about it.
Also sometimes you find mistakes in the Turkish translations because the English ones were not correct,and we have to check it,and rewrite the English sentence correct first then recorrect the Turkish one
İts annoying really specially coming from natives !
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:42 pm |
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As a non-native speaker I hate abbreviations and (English) chat words. Sometimes I even don´t know the meaning. Using them when texting is ok, it can save money but here on the forums? Are people using them so lazy? 
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:47 pm |
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Quoting incişka: using abbreviations is quite a normal thing for us cause we do it in our language and it sounds more natural to me this way... And when we look at the translation forum, most of the texts asked for translations are abbreviated. English abbreviations can be bad for Turks trying to learn English, but similarly, dont u think these threads on translation forum could be a problem for Turkish learners too? I see no harm in that... People should learn both formal and informal language. As far as the grammar is correct, why should a "u" for "you" be a problem? Everybody knows what it means anyway... We arent here for academic reasons... I´m a senior student in ELT and even we had a course on English abbreviations in our junior year The lectuter was British and he thought the abbreviations would be benefical in authentic use of language |
I am just an old fashioned sort who cannot stand the use of text language in more formal writing. Keep text language to the text message, chat room or informal emails etc! As for yor professor - sack him I can tell you using text talk (not abbreviations as they are different and recognised in English) causes a problem in business as youngsters used to using text talk cannot communicate in letter, emails properly and professionaly.
I totally agree...Using tex talk to me is a form of laziness.
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 11:23 pm |
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From today´s translation forum " could sum1 please help.........." AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!
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17 Aug 2008 Sun 11:47 am |
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I guess we have to admit it is a generational thing.
I am now one of the "old fogeys" which means I can understand  or 2mrw in English and kib or kanka in Turkish, but anything more advanced leaves me wondering what on earth they are talking about!
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