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What is pan-Turanianism?
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29 Apr 2008 Tue 01:25 am |
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Türkiyeli!!! That's what I want in Turkey!!! So no any ethnic people will be uncomfortable with it. Not Türk first, but Türkiyeli first. I dont mean to assimilate minorities, I always support them, but I think they should support Türkiye too. a lot to be done 
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29 Apr 2008 Tue 01:27 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin:
this is the panturanianism in its old version though.. i dont think it was as racist as it is now... |
Yeah, that was what I was trying to say in my previous post 
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29 Apr 2008 Tue 01:46 am |
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Deli Kizin, I found this under
Ülkücü
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29 Apr 2008 Tue 02:54 am |
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Quoting Roswitha: Deli Kizin, I found this under
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You could proably find more people in the US than Turkia to endorse that photo. Besides, the noose doesn't have a slip knot even! But I respect the cautionary warnings.
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29 Apr 2008 Tue 02:57 am |
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Hey Roswitha, somehow my comment got attached to your Post!
Apologies. I tried to quote you but delete the picture, but my comment just got pulled into your post!
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29 Apr 2008 Tue 03:14 am |
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Quoting longinotti1: Hey Roswitha, somehow my comment got attached to your Post!
Apologies. I tried to quote you but delete the picture, but my comment just got pulled into your post! |
Spooky! 
Ouhhh...are you a wizard? 
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29 Apr 2008 Tue 03:26 am |
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I will get rid of the noose picture and find a replacement.
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30 Apr 2008 Wed 02:17 am |
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Quoting Roswitha: Pan-Turanian activists have developed a fascinating mythology with respect to the origins of the Turks. This is the legend of a certain “Boz Kurt†(Grey Wolf) who roared out to the ancestors of the Turks and the Huns to migrate west from their homelands in Siberia and Central Asia. The Grey Wolf then allegedly pointed the way west and south: presumably against Persia, Anatolia, the Caucasus, the Near East, Russia, Ukraine, the Balkans, Greece and Western Europe.
It must be made clear once again that the majority of the people of Turkey do not support pan-Turanianism. Pan-Turanianism represents a minority opinion at best. The majority of Turks are disinterested in chauvinistic violence and expansionism.
Pan-Turanianism is a racialist movement that not only threatens Iran, but Greece, Armenia, Russia, Ukraine and even (to a more limited extent) China. If unchecked, Pan-Turanianism may become as dangerous to international peace and stability as Islamic fundamentalism has became today. |
This is a very wrong definition of pan-turanism. Pan-turanism is not the same thing as what mhp represents. Infact many of the supporters of this idea are non-Turks as it includes not only the Turkic people but also Hungarians, Finns, Mongolians and even Japanese and Koreans.(all the Ural-Altaic people)
I don`t know where you`re from but you definitely don`t know anything about mhp. I`m sure you think that mhp is a nationalistic party but it`s in fact a wahabi/islamist party funded by America to slow down the communist movements in Turkey.
And I don`t think pan-Turanism is more dangerous than pan-Europeanism aka EU. You call pan-Turanism a racialistic movement but what is EU then???
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30 Apr 2008 Wed 04:55 am |
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btw. the first person who came up with the idea of Pan-Turanism was Mathias Alexander Castren, a Finnish linguist. I don`t think he was a mhp supporter either.
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30 Apr 2008 Wed 12:08 pm |
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Quoting incişka: Türkiyeli!!! That's what I want in Turkey!!! So no any ethnic people will be uncomfortable with it. Not Türk first, but Türkiyeli first. I dont mean to assimilate minorities, I always support them, but I think they should support Türkiye too. a lot to be done |
sekerim, try to learn what is happening in other countries to minorities...
in greece, it is forbidden to use ''Turkish'' name in any association...there were really strict rules and punishment if someone use it...so it has been like that before their EU membership or later...They call all Turkish who live in greece as a muslim greeks...So before talking about that subject, compare with other countries ...
in Turkey every nations have right to use their language for ages, even ppl refuse it...yes other languages are not official language in education etc..., it is true and have to be like that coz u have to know language of the country where u lived for continuing education...it is also same in USA,UK or any other country...
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30 Apr 2008 Wed 12:21 pm |
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Quoting incişka: Türkiyeli!!! That's what I want in Turkey!!! So no any ethnic people will be uncomfortable with it. Not Türk first, but Türkiyeli first. I dont mean to assimilate minorities, I always support them, but I think they should support Türkiye too. a lot to be done |
+10000
and yessss. "A lot to be done"
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