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Part-time jobs in turkey beside your study
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1.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Feb 2006 Tue 01:15 am

I know that having a part-time job (such as working in a restaurant few times a week or in a clothing-shop) isn't common in Türkiye, when you go to University. In Holland though, this is very very common.

I read that as a foreign student you are not allowed to work during your study. Can someone maybe tell me more about this?

I will come to Turkiye with a pre-scolarship-visa, which means I am not an official student yet. Would that allow me to have a part-time job for the first year untill i become an official registered student?

Does anyone know where to find out about those?


2.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 28 Feb 2006 Tue 01:33 am

u could work..
it is not forbidden here..

3.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Feb 2006 Tue 05:10 pm

Are you sure? Because i am a foreign student, and i read that makes it forbidden.. but now you make me doubt?! Thanks for your reaction

4.       mltm
3690 posts
 28 Feb 2006 Tue 07:27 pm

"Yabancıların Çalışma İzinleri Hakkında Kanun (YÇİHK) ve ilgili yönetmelikler çalışma vizesi konusuna açıklık getirmişlerdir. YÇİHK'da, çalışma vizesi, çalışma izni ve ikâmet izni, birbirinden ayrı ve bağımsız kavramlar olarak ifade edilmektedirler (YÇİHK, m. 12). Buna göre, bir yabancının Türkiye'de çalışabilmesi için, ilke olarak, öncelikle çalışma izninin alınması gerekli olup, çalışma izni, ancak gerekli çalışma vizesi ve ikâmet izninin alınması halinde geçerli olmaktadır. Ayrıca, Uygulama Yönetmeliği ve Yabancı Yatırımlar Yönetmeliğinde de çalışma vizesinin alınmasının gerekli olduğu durumlar ve bunların istisnaları düzenlenmiştir (UY, m. 7; YYY, m. 9)."

According to this text, a foreigner must have a working permit in order to work, but there're exceptions who don't need a working permit and one of these exceptions is:
-" Ãœniversiteler ile kamu kurum ve kuruluşlarında bilgi ve görgülerini artırmak üzere gelen, üç ayı geçmemek ve durumunu ibraz edeceği belgelerle kanıtlamak koşuluyla bulunanlar"
The ones that come to Turkey in order to improve their knowledge or experience in universities or public associations for a period that doesn't exceed "3 months"

I think your stay is over 3 months, so according to me (I am not sure) you have to take a working permit and as I read to take the working permit you have to take working visa from the embassy.

-Ancak, Türkiye'de öğrenim amacıyla ikâmet tezkeresi almış olan yabancılar, altı ay süreli ikâmet tezkeresi almış ve bunun süresi henüz sona ermemiş olsa bile, Türkiye'nin dış temsilciliklerinden çalışma vizesi almak suretiyle ülkeye giriş yapmak zorundadırlar (UY, m. 7/2).

(And according to this paragraph above, the foreigners that have taken residence permit for the purpose of education must enter the country to take a working visa from the foreign agencies of Turkey.)

So, you must take the working visa in Turkey.

Again I'm not sure. I just slightly read the conditions, but there're so many pages and conditions. So, it's better that your bf checks the page for you:http://www.tisk.org.tr
Türkiye İşveren Sendikaları Konfederasyonu
Turkish Confederation of Employer Associations

5.       mltm
3690 posts
 28 Feb 2006 Tue 07:38 pm

But I'm confused now, because in the regulation of the council of higher education, it's written that foreign students including the ones that come for language course, cannot work during their education.
http://www.yok.gov.tr/yasa/yonet/yonet34.html
http://www.yok.gov.tr/duyuru/student_council.pdf

6.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Feb 2006 Tue 10:23 pm

Meltem, you are an angel!!! Thank you very very much. I will give these pages to my boyfriend so that he can check. Indeed, my stay will be over three months, likely to be about a year and then hopefully pass the YÖS to prolong my visa (I'm quite sure I can manage that .

I will try to find out about the owrking thing, and the first thing i will do when i get back to turkey, is go to the dutch consolate in Izmir and ask what they advice me about it Thanks a lot for the information as i couldnt find any myself!!

Can someone tell me how it is to live in a dormitory and what the costs are, in general? I made a calculation of costs when i get an appartment for myself, and if i am not allowed to work, that will probably get too expensive (i will not receive money from Dutch government as i dont stay in holland), so another option is the cheaper dormitory, which is also located close to Kadir's house, which gives me a safer feeling than living somewhere alone.

Thanks for your replies again,


Esther

7.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Feb 2006 Tue 11:23 pm

How is the life in a turkish (girl) dormitory?

8.       ramayan
2633 posts
 01 Mar 2006 Wed 01:02 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

How is the life in a turkish (girl) dormitory?



depends on the dormitory u stay...in state dormitories u are able to stay out till 00 and i think they are good enough comparing to past....(i heard they were worse''

9.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Mar 2006 Wed 01:07 am

Are you allowed to have people spend the night with you there?

For example, during the weeks i would probably just go to class, do my shopping, visit Kadir during some days.. but in the weekend I would like him to stay over.

10.       erdinc
2151 posts
 01 Mar 2006 Wed 01:31 am

I think you are kidding. Şaka mı yapıyorsun? To girl dormitories even male flies are not allowed to enter (erkek sinek bile giremez) let alone male visitors to enter the building. Staying over the night there is obviously unimaginable.

There are only a few exceptions to this where inside some university campuses both male and female dormitrories are located in the same area. They might use some facilities together such as dining areas. To what city are you going anyway?

11.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 01 Mar 2006 Wed 02:41 am

Quoting mltm:

"Yabancıların Çalışma İzinleri Hakkında Kanun (YÇİHK) ve ilgili yönetmelikler çalışma vizesi konusuna açıklık getirmişlerdir. YÇİHK'da, çalışma vizesi, çalışma izni ve ikâmet izni, birbirinden ayrı ve bağımsız kavramlar olarak ifade edilmektedirler (YÇİHK, m. 12). Buna göre, bir yabancının Türkiye'de çalışabilmesi için, ilke olarak, öncelikle çalışma izninin alınması gerekli olup, çalışma izni, ancak gerekli çalışma vizesi ve ikâmet izninin alınması halinde geçerli olmaktadır. Ayrıca, Uygulama Yönetmeliği ve Yabancı Yatırımlar Yönetmeliğinde de çalışma vizesinin alınmasının gerekli olduğu durumlar ve bunların istisnaları düzenlenmiştir (UY, m. 7; YYY, m. 9)."

According to this text, a foreigner must have a working permit in order to work, but there're exceptions who don't need a working permit and one of these exceptions is:
-" Ãœniversiteler ile kamu kurum ve kuruluşlarında bilgi ve görgülerini artırmak üzere gelen, üç ayı geçmemek ve durumunu ibraz edeceği belgelerle kanıtlamak koşuluyla bulunanlar"
The ones that come to Turkey in order to improve their knowledge or experience in universities or public associations for a period that doesn't exceed "3 months"

I think your stay is over 3 months, so according to me (I am not sure) you have to take a working permit and as I read to take the working permit you have to take working visa from the embassy.

-Ancak, Türkiye'de öğrenim amacıyla ikâmet tezkeresi almış olan yabancılar, altı ay süreli ikâmet tezkeresi almış ve bunun süresi henüz sona ermemiş olsa bile, Türkiye'nin dış temsilciliklerinden çalışma vizesi almak suretiyle ülkeye giriş yapmak zorundadırlar (UY, m. 7/2).

(And according to this paragraph above, the foreigners that have taken residence permit for the purpose of education must enter the country to take a working visa from the foreign agencies of Turkey.)

So, you must take the working visa in Turkey.

Again I'm not sure. I just slightly read the conditions, but there're so many pages and conditions. So, it's better that your bf checks the page for you:http://www.tisk.org.tr
Türkiye İşveren Sendikaları Konfederasyonu
Turkish Confederation of Employer Associations


u r right.. it is forbidden but noone obey the rules nearby here

12.       mltm
3690 posts
 01 Mar 2006 Wed 11:04 am

Erdinç is right. Males.. allowed to the girl dormitories..??

13.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Mar 2006 Wed 04:05 pm

That sounds so weird to me.. In Holland when you go on a camp on primary school the kids of 12 years old already complain that girls and boys cannot be mixed.. but to think of that after your primary school is very unlikely here. I would't be surprised if the parents of children older than 16 years here would start to complain if boys and girls cannot be mixed But this is the other side of an extreme ofcourse.. But it sounds kinda weird to me that in a dormitory, where mostly people over 18 years live, you are not allowed to decide for yourself if you have someone staying overnight, no matter what gender.. as long as you don't bother roommates?

I am going to Izmir and I am not even sure yet if i will go to a dormitory, I need to find out what it is like first. I actually hope one of kadir's female friends needs a roommate or something.

I wouldn't mind to stay over night in his house during the weekends ofcourse, but seeing the fact he shares his appartment with his best friend Gökhan.. I'd say it would not be unpleasant to go to my 'place' too.

Is there internet connection in dormitories.. and what about food and costs? Do you have a shared bathroom and kitchen with all of the building, or is it more like an appartment u share with several girls?

Quoting duskahvesi:

[u r right.. it is forbidden but noone obey the rules nearby here



Yes i heard about this.. some turkish people i know say i am quite likely to find a job easily because i speak English French Dutch and German all quite well and because I have experience working in the restaurant-world.. but.. if they find out I am working unofficially.. they can send me back to Holland.. something i definitely do not wish!! So i don't think i want to take that risk.

14.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 02 Mar 2006 Thu 09:34 pm

Is there anyone on this site who lives in a dormitory or who knows someone that lives in a dormitory and who could give me some information? I'd be willing to send you my msn in a PM. Thanks in advance.. I'm kinda desperate to know

15.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Mar 2006 Thu 10:25 pm

What do you want to know about İzmir dormitories? Maybe there might be people here who live and study in İzmir and could give you information about İzmir dormitories.

About your boyfriend staying at the dormitrory I already gave you information.

Izmir will be fine in many ways but choose a modern dormitrory. There are some religious organisations who are in this bussiness and even the ordinary citizens of İzmir wouldnt send their doughters to such a place. You need to get information before you decide on a place. There are many details to take into account.

16.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 02 Mar 2006 Thu 10:57 pm

Any people from Izmir here?

Yes, you are right.. that's why i definitely need to know as much as possible about them.

I already told Kadir to find me information of the dormitory that is close to his house. He told me there was one close to him and i am sure he wouldnt send me to somewhere religious. But as he is a medical student and missed out a whole week of school because of my stay (and due to this failed one of his exams), i don't want to claim him the coming few weeks, because he should catch up on his study first.

Unfortunately, my 'investigation' shouldn't be delayed anylonger.. It's March now.. My exams start in May, i will work during June and July and at the end of July I will already move..(i plan to), so i need to find everything out now.

Points that i need to know

- costs
- what do they cover? (electricity costs included? breakfast? water? whatever that could or could not be included?)
- how much do you generally spend a month for food and clothing?
- how much do you generally spend a month for public transport?
- How are you insured as a student? Or is this different when you are a foreigner?

If anyone else knows some details that i should be aware of or questions that i should find out as well, please let me know.

I hope i am not annoying with all my questions, but so far i am dissappointed by the information Holland can give me so far. Maybe a visit to the Turkish embassy in Holland would do?

17.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Mar 2006 Thu 11:09 pm

Maybe you can mention where you are going to study and where exactly the place is located. So you would get better information. You might consider opening a new thread names "Do you know dormitrories close to ..."

Distance is important. I can't help you with other details but I know about the insurance thing. If you are a student of a university the universities health clinic will provide service for you but this will be limited to basic things. You need to contact with the university about your status during your stay.
If your boyfriend is a medical student he will help you on this issue.

You could also open a new thread named as "How much does a university student spend?".

18.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 02 Mar 2006 Thu 11:29 pm

Thank you very much I am just so tensed about my coming exams and scriptions, that i cannot think clear of anything anymore and everything about Türkiye has become blurry. Those two threads are a very good idea.

Unfortunately, first year, i will not attend unviersity but Turkish Institute in Bornova.. i think it is connected with EGE Ãœniversitesi tho.. Would that make a difference?

I will ask Kadir about the insurance and he will go visit the nearest dormitory in two weeks (he was just online).

19.       roya
2 posts
 04 Jun 2008 Wed 10:54 am

hello my name is roya and i want to become a phd student in izmir for september but i should learn turkish first so i start it but i want to come to turkey for july to go to tomer classes in this way i heared in summer tomer classes and dormitirees in izmir will off if some one have information would you please help me?

20.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 09 Jun 2008 Mon 10:54 pm

Quoting roya:

hello my name is roya and i want to become a phd student in izmir for september but i should learn turkish first so i start it but i want to come to turkey for july to go to tomer classes in this way i heared in summer tomer classes and dormitirees in izmir will off if some one have information would you please help me?



Hello roya.

İn tomer there is a system. you pay 350 euro ( actually that was last year, i may check sunday for you) and stay with a turkish family or person but mostly family. they should provide you a room, breakfast and dinner, etc...after you finish with tomer, if you deal with turkish family you can continue to syat with them surely during your education...if there is any spesific information you would like to know about izmir feel free to ask me...i am living here in izmir

21.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 01:31 am

Quoting avaloncraven:

i am living here in izmir



İzmir'in neresinde

22.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 09:08 am

Bornova

23.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 02:22 pm

As come for issue of topic,

Quote:


TÃœRKİYE’DE ÖĞRENİM GÖREN
YABANCI UYRUKLU ÖĞRENCİLERE İLİŞKİN YÖNETMELİK
Resmi Gazete : 30 Nisan 1985 / 18740

Çalışma Yasağı
MADDE 10- Yabancı uyruklu öğrenciler, öğrenimleri süresince gelir getiren herhangi bir işte çalışamazlar.



===================================================================]

Regulation for foreign students

offical gazette ( it mean any law written in this gazette accepted by government)

Work permittion

foreign students are not allowed to have any paying business during their education
===================================================================
so not only you dont have permittion to work but also you can not have your own company in turkey while you are at school

24.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 02:35 pm

Çalışma Yasağı ve İstisnası(1)

Madde 10- (Değişik : 6/1/1992 - 92/2594 B.K.K.)

Yabancı uyruklu öğrenciler, öğrenimleri süresince gelir getiren herhangi bir işte çalışamazlar. Ancak, lisans üstü öğrenim gören yabancı uyruklu öğrenciler, araştırma yaptıkları yüksek öğretim kurumlarında ücret karşılığı çalıştırılabilirler.

--------------------------------------------------------------

There had been a change at 6/1/1992 and it says if you are here for postgraduate education, you are allowed to work in the higher education establishments which you are doing your research

25.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 12:33 am

Quoting avaloncraven:

Bornova



Hmmm yazık sana

It's only good thing is the little bakery near Küçük Park and Forum Bornova, but it is smelly, hot and far from sea

26.       gernas
58 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 12:42 am

thousands (and many many children) work illegally in turkey with no insurance...

u can work anywhere illegally and might get paid for your work of months if u are lucky



27.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 07:31 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting avaloncraven:

Bornova



Hmmm yazık sana

It's only good thing is the little bakery near Küçük Park and Forum Bornova, but it is smelly, hot and far from sea



Thank you you made my day

Hey i am coming from İstanbul, so dont tell me what is smeel

İ lived sea shore all my life and still dont know how to swimm..but it was nice to be able run beside see in the mornings..now i need to take a minibus for go to Bayraklı

Ãœniversite Bakery still delicious and because of it (last year's effect) now i am making 2 hour excersize instead of 1 side effect to live near students

İ do not often go to Küçük Park...i go to campus or library and get socialize there and for cafe i choose Portakal Kafe in Büyük Park (i am fat i can not fit in Küçük Park, i need Büyük Park )

Alsancak just 30 miniute away with metro + walk

Where do you prefer to live ? Karşı Yaka

28.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 02:38 pm

Quoting avaloncraven:


Ãœniversite Bakery still delicious

İ do not often go to Küçük Park...i go to campus or library and get socialize there and for cafe i choose Portakal Kafe in Büyük Park

Where do you prefer to live ? Karşı Yaka



I don't know the university bakery, but I do know Yeşil Köşk which has really great ton balıklı and tavuklu salads. I think I know portakal kafe, but I am not so sure..

Well I prefer Sahilevleri and Narlıdere I think I don't like Karşıyaka too much, it is beautiful but not so canlı. I love the mandalina bahçeleri of Narlıdere and I love to do mangal in Sahilevleri So no, no luxurious apartment in karşıyaka for me

29.       imran18315
1 posts
 04 Jul 2014 Fri 02:19 pm

I am going to istanbul for MSc. 24 Hours per week is allowed to me. I had applied to Kdir Has University. But now i have doubt about work oppertunities for students in turkey. As part time job is not so common in turkey like other EU countries. I can´t speak Turkish. Please guide me about job opertunities for international students in Turkey. I am from Pakistan and i only Know English and Urdu.

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