I would rather vote for a President who believes in pro-life than for a President who believes in partial-birth abortion or "born alive" where the abortion has gone wrong and the "baby" IS born and requires medical attention but is denied.  I cannot fathom nor will EVER understand women especially those who have children that could be for abortion.  And whether you believe that fetus isn´t a child at conception is just plain denial in my book. 

Elisabeth, I did explain why I used the words "thin brain" in response to TrainStation´s post. Why do you refuse to accept my explanation and you are carrying on a conversation based on false assumptions?

Yes... I think that the worst evil of humanity is when people have this missionary attitude of imposing their own beliefs on everybody else! If someone thinks she/he will go to heaven by doing something or not doing something, go ahead and live by your beliefs, but get off of other people´s backs. It´s their own problem what they do in their lives and what consequences they will have. Live and let live!

George Calin on Pro-Lifers in America (it´s a bit harsh, so if you´re sensitive, don´t open this link)

I really really can understand the moral passion that pro-life people feel. I respect their choice, but just wish they could understand some things.

When I was assisting for special education teachers I remember a family clearly. This young girl had been raped by her father for most of her life. I was told (do not know ALL the specifics) that this girl had repeated abortions and her parents had even performed one in the home. The girl also gave birth to one of the babies, and it was removed from the home, this child now has extreme phsyical and mental handicaps. The child does not open her eyes and has deformities of the face, mouth, and most of her joints. Do you think she is feeling a rich quality of life?

There is nothing wrong with being pro-life, but there is nothing wrong with being pro-choice either.

I feel sorry for you if you believe this is the worst evil of humanity. If people didn´t stand up for what they believe in, where would we be today.  Let everyone do what they want etc..mentality.  I can think of worse!  I believe Elisabeth & myself have been very constructive as to why we don´t believe in abortion.  However, I feel that some of the comments here..starting with Alamada "I can´t fathom how any thinking women " to libras "mongol son" and your "thin brain comment" have been a little out of hand.  Did I call anyone murders here...Should I post some graphic pictures on youtube...  Let me say this again, I simply am pro-life and prefer a president who is.

 The term "partial birth abortion" is a term spawned to incite raw emotion! There is no partial birth abortion other than in some people´s minds. There is no medical term called "partial birth abortion".  The same can be said for the "Born Alive" controversy. As for Obama´s position of those issues, read his website and get it straight. They are terms purposfuly vague in order to skirt the laws.

Here is the story of a woman who chose to terminate her pregnacy that your people would have denied. It is a very emotional and personal decision and one that the government needs to stay out of.

When people take positions that would enslave others, I protest and will not sit passivly by. I am old enough to remember before Roe V Wade. I knew many women who risked their lives terminating pregnacy. You have no idea of just how it was, and I doubt if you have much of an idea of how, given today´s technology, it could be.

Even the Wahabbis have more liberal ideas than this.  .....and I don´t think any woman takes this lightly. It is a decision that is very emotional and personal.

 Teaschip, as I have said over and over and over....If you don´t believe in abortion....don´t have one! However when you impose your views on millions of other women, I seriously object!

I also have a right to seriously object what happens in our society, whether it affects me personally or not!  As for partial- birth abortion just because the terminology is not recognized by the medical society, doesn´t make it very real.  Just ask your candidate. 

I just received this from my American friends who live in Europe, and want to share this with you:

An Apostle of Alaska

 

 NEWSWEEK

I would like to hear a reaction upon some of the reasons for an abortion that have been mentioned from the pro-lifers. The girl who has given birth to her fathers child, over and over again. The crack hooker. The couple who would love to raise a child, but who know that the mother will die giving birth. 

I understand reasons to be against abortion.

I am also wondering, the decision to be pro-life, has it got any religious grounds too?

And as a last, which just came to my mind: what is your idea on euthanasy? (I´m sorry, I don´t exactly know if that is the english word. I mean when a terminal ill patient decides he/she wants to die).

(and just for the record: I´m genuinely interested )

 I had children young, looked after them at home from birth to school age, started working part time to fit in with school times, began studying, got qualifications, began working more hours as they got older, and worked full time when the youngest one was about 13.  Had time off work in the school holidays, mother-in-law had them some of the holidays. 

By doing this, I saw every single one of my childrens teeth grow, I heard their first words, I saw them sit for the first time, crawl and I saw them take their first steps, I watched them learn to feed themselves, and laughed when they made a mess.  I listened to them reading their first words, and helped them with their first maths.  I built lego toys with them, helped them with model aeroplanes when they became frustrated, I taught them about nature and respect for nature.  I wiped their tears, I kissed them and cuddled them when they were upset.  I taught them to ride a bike, to fish and I taught them to swim, I taught them to drive a car, I taught them how to stand on their own two feet.

By the time I was 35 (my children just about off my hands) I had a reasonable job and good prospects which I have built on since to become a senior manager and since moved on to pastures new into another senior position and now rub shoulders with politicians. 

Is that enough or do you want more?