While you carry on about what you feel is my "tone", I´m trying to discuss a important issue. It could be that you just don´t feel it is relevant to you.

The current "pro-life" agenda could enslave millions of females. As the US population is around 300 million, half of those being female, this effects 150 million females today, and who knows how many tomorrow? No exception for rape victims, no exception for women whose life would be endangered, no exception for victims of incest, no exception for unviability of the fetus....

Claiming human life begins at inception....and the criminalization of those terminating that? Outlawing methods of birth control that they feel interrupt things? As I said earlier in this thread, what is next, check stops to check on the fertility status of females?

Did you know there is a new federal guidline that asks all females capable of conceiving a baby to treat themselves, and be treated by the healthcare system- as pre-pregnant, regardless of weather they plan to get pregnant anytime soon....

What then, jail time for not properly taking care of yourself in your pre-pregnant state?

 Why does she need to admit anything to you?  She has made herself incredibly clear what her views are.  As Trudy said, it is her right to respond or not.  No matter how many times or ways you say it, she does not have to answer you.  And since you are so disprespectful in your methods of getting her to "admit" it, who can blame her? 

Yes, you want to continue the debate but maybe she feels she has debated the subject enough. 

Move on.

Disgusting:

Palin´s town billed rape victims to get evidence

By MARY PEMBERTON – 20 hours ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — When Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the city billed sexual assault victims and their insurance companies for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations.

Palin had been in office for four years when the practice of charging rape victims got the attention of state lawmakers in 2000, who passed a bill to stop the practice.

Former Democratic Rep. Eric Croft, who sponsored that bill, said he was disappointed that simply asking the Wasilla police department to stop didn´t work. Croft said he doubts she was unaware of the practice.

Maria Comella, a McCain-Palin campaign spokeswoman, said Palin "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test." To suggest otherwise, she said, is a "misrepresentation of her commitment to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice."

As governor, Palin has worked in a variety of ways to tackle the problem of sexual assault and rape, including making domestic violence a priority of her administration, Comella said. Alaska routinely has the nation´s highest rate of sexual assault.

Lawmakers became involved in 2000 when reports began coming in that police departments were charging sexual assault victims for the kits and the forensic exams, which cost from $300 to $1,200 at the time. The kit, a package of sample containers, swabs and other medical supplies, is used to collect evidence from women after they are attacked.

Then-Gov. Tony Knowles said Thursday that Wasilla was unique in the state in charging rape victims for the cost of doing the law enforcement necessary for solving the crime.

The bill passed the Legislature over the objections of Wasilla police chief Charlie Fannon, who said it would require the city to come up with more money to cover the costs of buying the rape kits and doing the exams.

I am cracking up! A Palin Doll for the Nation and her first grand child. Ha, ha.

Let´s go back to original comment you made about her "mongol son" and if she was going to palm him off to someone else.  You alluded to her not being able to have a career and being a mother at the same time.  So I questioned you on this and you explained yourself.  Just because I didn´t applaud you on being a stay at home mom and not missing your child growing up.  I simply stated that I also worked and raised a child and found balance.  I don´t think I deserved a crappy response like you dished out, especially being a mod. 

I don´t think Teas thinks you are so wrong to do what you´ve done LL.  I don´t think that´s her issue with you.

It is very admirable that you managed to carve a career without resorting to childcare.  However, everyone´s circumstances are different , and I´m not assuming you were lucky enough to be well off either. 

I too managed to have a career and bring up a child.  I had no choice, I had to work, but I was lucky that my parents were my daughter´s carers, so it was just like being at home. 

When I left school I didn´t go to university, I studied finance whilst working for a bank and did well.  But, when my daughter was 3 I went to university for 4 years and this actually gave me more time with my daughter.  I downsized so that I could pay my way at University and I can say that I never resorted to the state for support at all. 

There are some single parents who will take state benefits and stay home with their children and others who will not and go to work and then have to find child care.  Unfortunately, whichever path they take they will be criticised for it for one reason or another.  And before anyone says it, I don´t think it´s justified to say "well they shouldn´t have had children".  Single parents aren´t always single women becoming pregnant, some have been married for years before being divorced or widowed.

There are no hard and fast rules on bringing up a child and what works for one doesn´t work for another.  Not all stay at home mums are fun seeking and energetic and they can make life miserable for their children.  Some children are naturally gregarious and can´t wait to be let loose .  I think the main thing is to try not to be judgemental about people´s choices regarding the raising of their children. (In normal circumstances that is).

Sarah Palin has a great deal to answer for, looking at this thread .

More  revealing news about S. Palin from the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/politics/

Glamor ranks high in the American popular culture - higher than
educational achievement, and higher than a personal history of
experience with the complications of national issues. Only here, in
glamor-worshiping USA, could one go from hockey mom/PTA to the White House.

The prospect of this amateur calling the shots in the White House is
just terrifying.

Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes

 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1221343324-tGxa66AkDRYq1tsNYpjoIw&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

Very Bizarre ´Holy Laughter Annointing´ Theology at Sarah Palin´s Juneau Church

http://www.alternet.org/election08/98703/very_bizarre_%27holy_laughter_annointing%27_theology_at_sarah_palin%27s_juneau_church/

Napoleon in knock-off bunny boots

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/opinion/14dowd.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Palin resembles a female version of Bush, brought back from the grave to win the election.

The culture war: It´s back!

Democrats may have thought that the disastrous Bush years killed the GOP´s favorite tactic. The Palin effect shows they were wrong.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/palin_interview/