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150.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:36 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Sui..you really believe 911 was a conspiracy theory?{#lang_emotions_wtf}  You can´t imagine how those planes got so close to the pentagon..please explain yourself.{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 

This is what i find it hard to believe really teaschip... US has the best information systems in the world right? the powerful army and defending system right?

 

They have the technology to get rid of from those planes before they could get close to pentagon...

151.       tinababy
1096 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:37 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 Actually an average a little bit intellectual person wouldn´t say it. It´s because they are ignorant people with whom you talked to.

And if you tell the same thing to a random tourist that has visited Turkey before, your chances to hear the similar thing is very high because ignorant people are everywhere, and it is possible to be reacted similarly for the northern region of Turkey where there´s not a lot of "attraction" like in the south east. It´s a commercialist world and people do not give much importance to history and culture.

But that has nothing to do with racism that is done by the Turkish government.

 

 actually that was my point. The racism seems to be endemic throughout the social strata of "Turkish". Also, I have seen the discrimination of Kurdish friends first hand and find it very difficult to accept. You can try to have a rational conversation about it but I find that ordinary people just come out with stock phrases that they have learnt since childhood. I also agree that PKK do not help the public perception of what being Kurdish means.

Anyway. I´ll leave you to fight amongst yourselves and toast all Turkish people no matter what their ethnic background. 

152.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:39 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 Actually an average a little bit intellectual person wouldn´t say it. It´s because they are ignorant people with whom you talked to.

And if you tell the same thing to a random tourist that has visited Turkey before, your chances to hear the similar thing is very high because ignorant people are everywhere, and it is possible to be reacted similarly for the northern region of Turkey where there´s not a lot of "attraction" like in the south east. It´s a commercialist world and people do not give much importance to history and culture.

But that has nothing to do with racism that is done by the Turkish government.

 

I have exactly the same experience as Tinababy. Many, many Turkish people telling me that ´the East´ is bad, dangerous, dirty, not hospitable etc. All from people who were never in the East themselves and ask me ´Where is that place?´ when I tell them the villages and cities I´ve been to. Must mean that there are many ignorant people in west-Turkey.....

 

153.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:39 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Maybe they are able to, but I guess they don´t want to...

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

It is joke of the day..

You may not have heard that but in Turkey people grow with the ideas such as  ´how glorifying being a turk´ .

Do you expect they would know what really racism is?

 

 You are the one who travelled all east and south east! wont you speak some life in society? why dont speak what you see and explain the racism you saw with your eyes?!

154.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:43 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 You are the one who travelled all east and south east! wont you speak some life in society? why dont speak what you see and explain the racism you saw with your eyes?!

 

 If I thought you were open minded enough to listen, I would. Now it is a waste of my time.

155.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:45 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 If I thought you were open minded enough to listen, I would. Now it is a waste of my time.

 

 

Thanks for your thoughts about me... But i am open minded enough to answer this comment of your about me...

 

Not only for me... i had asked for nearly 19000 members of this website...

156.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:48 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

This is what i find it hard to believe really teaschip... US has the best information systems in the world right? the powerful army and defending system right?

 

They have the technology to get rid of from those planes before they could get close to pentagon...

 

 I think I can answer this.  The US had NEVER been a victim of a direct terrorist attack on US soil until that day.  They may have had the technology, but it was something that had never happened and they were not prepared for it.

 

In addition, the attacks involved commerical aircraft carrying hundreds of people.  To shoot them down would have been a very brave decision to make with huge repucussions. 

 

It is easy in hindsight to say they should have intercepted them.

157.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:49 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

Thanks for your thoughts about me... But i am open minded enough to answer this comment of your about me...

 

Not only for me... i had asked for nearly 19000 members of this website...

 

 Sure. Nearly 19000 members (of whom many are not online for years or who only post ´askimhayatimseniseviyorum´-messages) share your views? They all think like you that there is no racism? Dream on.

158.       Merih
933 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:52 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

 I think I can answer this.  The US had NEVER been a victim of a direct terrorist attack on US soil until that day.  They may have had the technology, but it was something that had never happened and they were not prepared for it.

 

In addition, the attacks involved commerical aircraft carrying hundreds of people.  To shoot them down would have been a very brave decision to make with huge repucussions. 

 

It is easy in hindsight to say they should have intercepted them.

 

 So they decided to let thousands die????

159.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:52 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Sure. Nearly 19000 members (of whom many are not online for years or who only post ´askimhayatimseniseviyorum´-messages) share your views? They all think like you that there is no racism? Dream on.

 

 I never said there is no racism, god! But it is not like as you mentioned in every step in a street...

 

The racists are those provocators... there are on Turkish side... and both on Kurdish side...

160.       Merih
933 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:52 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Sure. Nearly 19000 members (of whom many are not online for years or who only post ´askimhayatimseniseviyorum´-messages) share your views? They all think like you that there is no racism? Dream on.

 

 so you know all?  and they say we don´t agree with sui

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