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6 More deaths :(
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:52 pm |
Sure. Nearly 19000 members (of whom many are not online for years or who only post ´askimhayatimseniseviyorum´-messages) share your views? They all think like you that there is no racism? Dream on.
so you know all? and they say we don´t agree with sui
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:57 pm |
Sure. Nearly 19000 members (of whom many are not online for years or who only post ´askimhayatimseniseviyorum´-messages) share your views? They all think like you that there is no racism? Dream on.
Sharing my view or not has nothing to do with that...
i didnt want to mention but... hasnt your saying "waste of your time for a not open minded enough" had a little with discrimation and racism?
And i can say that you are hiding behind that ridicilous reason not to speak of what you have seen... It was just a selfish behaviour
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 05:02 pm |
So they decided to let thousands die????
They had only minutes to decide ANYTHING. There was no typical warning of a hijack, it happened and then they have to decide if to shoot a stray commerical airliner down carrying hundreds of people, without actually knowing that it was carrying suicidal muslim extremists inside it!!!
These things are decided by HUMANS. They may have technology, but the attack was unprecidented. Of course errors are made and nobody decides to shoot down a commercial aircraft lightly.
However, if you wish to believe in conspiracy theories, please do. This is my opinion, you have yours. Just stop thinking of the US as infallible robots with more technology than we can ever imagine!
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 05:07 pm |
I think I can answer this. The US had NEVER been a victim of a direct terrorist attack on US soil until that day. They may have had the technology, but it was something that had never happened and they were not prepared for it.
In addition, the attacks involved commerical aircraft carrying hundreds of people. To shoot them down would have been a very brave decision to make with huge repucussions.
It is easy in hindsight to say they should have intercepted them.
I can tell you from what i heard from a local, there is PKK on the road stops people after a few miles there is a local soldier station. They report it to the officer there but what they say is let them do.
every single plane has a route to travel and in every little point they are being watched so they could do something about it before they had the crash...
Yeah you can say i watch so many sci-fis lately...
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 05:08 pm |
i didnt want to mention but... hasnt your saying "waste of your time for a not open minded enough" had a little with discrimation and racism?
So now I´m discriminating you? Whoehahaha! You are not so open minded but you are definitively funny.
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 05:10 pm |
So now I´m discriminating you? Whoehahaha! You are not so open minded but you are definitively funny.
Why on earth you still waste your time on such narrow minded me?
And anyway.. i am not being that because you have told me so... i really dont care... i was honestly wanted to learn what you have seen... that was all...
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 06:19 pm |
I can tell you from what i heard from a local, there is PKK on the road stops people after a few miles there is a local soldier station. They report it to the officer there but what they say is let them do.
every single plane has a route to travel and in every little point they are being watched so they could do something about it before they had the crash...
Yeah you can say i watch so many sci-fis lately...
All it takes is a little common sense, detective work & REAL science to know that the hijackers were all that were needed to bring down the twin towers and pentagon. The hijackers had turned the transponders off, so no one knew exactly where the missing flights where. Planes have been used in the past by terrorists for either a ransom or demand they never thought it would be used as a weapon. Making your claim that it was our goverment who conspired to do this in order to give us the green light to pursue more oil is totally idiotic on your part. Before the attack our goverment and President was focusing on cutting goverment spending, a war would not put us in a position to do that then. All the motives supplied by conspiracy theorists have no basis at all in the facts.
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 06:22 pm |
i read conversation: messages 36-40, and on last pages up to message 165 and thought that people should forget by now who fought for what, whose grand…grand father died at the war and smth like that. these cannot be reduced to a common denominator, endless.... separatism can lead us to world mosaic of "San Marinos and Andoras"
government could use brute force in real meaning. good strategic mind, firm will and strict hierarchy of submission. Rome made the same decision about Carthage. unfortunately, only after third Punic war. These wars cost bilions of money and thousands of lives. Though, Turkey will blamed hardly. Either country should be dominated in the world and does not care about its deeds or create good image of itself.
government can build developed civil infrastructure. People value comfort. People who are settled and live in cities are more likely to be more about maintenance of comfortable status. several generations in cities will turn people to more liberal, tolerate and democratic by nature.
the other way is just wait. there is theory that we are going into new Ice age. Long story why, but main thesis is - when climate is cold people flock together, when it gets warmer each nation wish o go on its own. Current warmth is "last gift". the cost-is-no-object approach at last.
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 06:43 pm |
They had only minutes to decide ANYTHING. There was no typical warning of a hijack, it happened and then they have to decide if to shoot a stray commerical airliner down carrying hundreds of people, without actually knowing that it was carrying suicidal muslim extremists inside it!!!
These things are decided by HUMANS. They may have technology, but the attack was unprecidented. Of course errors are made and nobody decides to shoot down a commercial aircraft lightly.
However, if you wish to believe in conspiracy theories, please do. This is my opinion, you have yours. Just stop thinking of the US as infallible robots with more technology than we can ever imagine!
To say that communication between civilian Air Traffic Control (ATC) and NORAD was abysmal on the morning of September 11, 2001 would be a massive understatement. As an illustration, it took ATC twenty-three minutes to communicate to NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 had been hijacked,1 and in the case of United Airlines Flight 175, ATC informed NORAD of that flight´s odyssey through northeast skies at 09:03, the same minute as Flight 175 impacted Two World Trade Center!2
Communication between ATC and NORAD in regards to the last two flights hijacked--American Airlines Flight 77 and United Airlines Flight 93--fared worse. In these two cases NORAD wasn´t officially informed of any troubles with those flights until after they had crashed!3 In the case of Flight 77, that flight began deviating from its flight plan at 08:54,4 but NEADS wasn´t informed about Flight 77 until 09:34 when NEADS just happened to be in contact with a Washington Center manager discussing what turned out to be a "phantom" Flight 11 heading south towards Washingon, D.C. During the conversation NEADS was matter-of-factly informed that Flight 77 was also lost. This was the first indication that NORAD had of Flight 77´s troubles ... via a chance utterance by Washington Center!5
THE WHOLE ARTICLE: http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20081008162855671
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 06:57 pm |
It was very bad yes, but a conspiracy?
They were slow to react and indecisive and I hope they were disciplined. However, if you go around looking at sites like 911truth.org, then you will start to believe conspiracy theories I suppose.
Shall I find you similar wacky sites about the big muslim plots to take over the world?
Believe it or not, the US DO MAKE BIG MISTAKES!!!!
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09 Oct 2008 Thu 07:06 pm |
It was very bad yes, but a conspiracy?
They were slow to react and indecisive and I hope they were disciplined. However, if you go around looking at sites like 911truth.org, then you will start to believe conspiracy theories I suppose.
Shall I find you similar wacky sites about the big muslim plots to take over the world?
Believe it or not, the US DO MAKE BIG MISTAKES!!!!
Why shouldn´t I look at those sites? Maybe they have some point, and I prefer to consider every possibility than believing in what is offered to me to believe. US do make big mistakes but it is not very imaginary thing to believe that it can be the narrator of such a monstreous plan. we often think too simple and that´s the problem.
And where did you get your information, from the US controlled media?
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