catwoman, the name calling happens on many thread over and over again.  Just yesterday a MOD called Americans dumb and YOU pointed out that there is something wrong with the education system here in the US .     

 

I don´t like the name calling but it should be addressed as it happens and not selectively to protect only certain members of certain nationalities. 

catwoman, the name calling happens on many thread over and over again.  Just yesterday a MOD called Americans dumb and YOU pointed out that there is something wrong with the education system here in the US .     

 

I don´t like the name calling but it should be addressed as it happens and not selectively to protect only certain members of certain nationalities. 

 Lis, Eye dont thinck u r dum.... Frum 1 bed Amerikan 2 anothr.

This is my observation of some members and it does seem to be an attempt to discredit counter arguments.

 Whilst I understand what you´re trying to say here, some may misconstrue what you are saying.  I presume you aren´t saying all act this way, because we don´t. 

 Lis, Eye dont thinck u r dum.... Frum 1 bed Amerikan 2 anothr.

 tanks teas.....i r not feelin dum!

 tanks teas.....i r not feelin dum!

 Glad to see your English is improving Lisa (gotcha back  )

 I know very well our shortcomings.. how nationalist we are, how the best, the biggest and the important things always belongs to us, how our country is perfect and nobody can say anything negative about it.. but believe me everybody knows.. but we need to stay together not to loose our country no matter what keeps us together.. whether you like it or not..

 

So, for Türkiye ... hip hip...   HURRAYYYYYYY

I try to read the thread from the beginning and i stopped on page 13 that i guess it will come to this point again (actually it come to this point on first page).

 

According to them all Turks are racist(cw mentioned this clearly), brainwashed, paranoid and close-minded . I think she is happy to start an argument like this, actually when one sees her posts on this forum, it should be clearly understood that her aim is to provoke and i agree with Merih that she got bored , in every thread she tries to scratch Turk-Kurd or Islam issue, and spoils the threads.

 

I think they are more paranoid than real paranoiacs. They are very uncomfortable with the muslim community and Turks in their country(in fact they want to say they are terrorists but cannot because it is forbidden and they are awfully liberal so they cannot say what they think clearly; these poor people except some exceptions. Precisely they endure in silence and got bored and try to find another way to attack like web)

 

There are always instigations and agitations in their community created by media. In first place media creates fear, then they supress it with liberalism and political correctness which opens a way to upgrade instigations. An avarage Brit cant say anything to this because of a fear of being called racist and facist so they got bored much. I was labelled racist here many times in fact im not racist and no relation with them , but then i understood they call every Turk or everyone like that if they dont like their thoughts. In case there is much pressure on them, there is no freedom of speech for this poor people to say what they think. They think freedom is to drink drugs, can sleep each night with different man/woman, wearing ridiculous cloths bla bla, even they dont know the meaning of freedom.

 I am not Turkish and one of the things (apart from the obvious racism) that I find infuriating in Turkey is this attitude that there is nothing in Turkey that needs to be criticised.

The racism will not get better while the Turkish population don´t accept any criticism - how will they ever think that maybe they are wrong?

Yes it is very patronizing of the Turkish to think that foreigners can´t have our own opinions and know our own mind. If the criticism is warranted then I will agree, if not then I will disagree but I don´t have to fall out with anybody.

BTW I am known as someone who criticizes lots of things when in Turkey - people are always very shocked!!! (Alwasy remember to smile when criticising!)

I am waiting to be told that if there is so much to criticise, why do I go back so often -because I love the place and the people.

I criticize my own country, my children, my parents and myself but hopefully it is positive criticism and maybe it will challenge an opinion once in a while?? People are entitled to their own opinions and beliefs but surely sometimes if these upset other people it doesn´t do any harm to challenge them occasionally.

I haven´t voiced my opinion earlier in this "debate" because I didn´t want to get into the middle of a slanging match!