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Turkey jails Kurdish politician Ms Zana
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10.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:37 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Why is it racist? It is a true story, allbeit exagerated and yes it offended the Turks because of the implication of the state of the jails, but it was a brilliant film, well acted. I never once thought of it as racist.

 

"you Turks are a nation of pigs"

 

yea I wonder what`s so racist about this!

 

 

11.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:41 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Why is it racist?  It is a true story, allbeit exagerated and yes it offended the Turks because of the implication of the state of the jails, but it was a brilliant film, well acted.  I never once thought of it as racist. 

 

I would agree with you..

The emphesis of the movie was not racism anyway..

 

12.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:42 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Do you scour the Turkish newspapers and pass by any positive news and pick out only the negative?

 

 But AE, the negative is all that is left after Ros gets through going through the news first.  {#lang_emotions_wink}

13.       libralady
5152 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:42 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

"you Turks are a nation of pigs"

 

yea I wonder what`s so racist about this!

 

 It´s a film and and old film at that!!! OK one phrase that could be considered racist.  I am sure there are plenty of films that can be considered racist, discrimantory, insulting, fascist, etc etc, and plenty of racist and insulting things have been said in films about British or German, or French or Italian or Japan, or Australia bla bla ............. but people move on!   

14.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:46 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 It´s a film and and old film at that!!! OK one phrase that could be considered racist.  I am sure there are plenty of films that can be considered racist, discrimantory, insulting, fascist, etc etc, and plenty of racist and insulting things have been said in films about British or German, or French or Italian or Japan, or Australia bla bla ............. but people move on!   

 

Well said..

But people who grew up with the ideas such as ´Turks only friends can be Turks only´ or they believe ´the entire world is out there to get Turks´ find the movie quite offensive.

Dont try to make a logic out of it

15.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:46 pm

 

Quoting libralady

It´s a film and and old film at that!!! OK one phrase that could be considered racist. I am sure there are plenty of films that can be considered racist, discrimantory, insulting, fascist, etc etc, and plenty of racist and insulting things have been said in films about British or German, or French or Italian or Japan, or Australia bla bla ............. but people move on!

 

one emphasis???

 

That is just one example from the movie. This film is full of these kinds of racist scenes. If you haven`t watched the movie or if you don`t understand what you watch, please don`t comment on it, cause you`re being funny.

 

how come its not racist if they make a movie in which all the Turks are portrayed as evil and all the non-Turks good?

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:49 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

one emphasis???

 

That is just one example from the movie. This film is full of these kinds of racist scenes. If you haven`t watched the movie, please don`t comment on it, cause you`re being funny.

Have you really watched the movie? ha ha ha..

 

17.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:50 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

one emphasis???

 

That is just one example from the movie. This film is full of these kinds of racist scenes. If you haven`t watched the movie, please don`t comment on it, cause you`re being funny.

 

how come its not racist if they make a movie in which all the Turks are portrayed as evil and all the non-Turks good?

 

 So you don´t think that any other movies have been made that portray any other nation or peoples in a bad light? 

18.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:51 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Have you really watched the movie? ha ha ha..

 

I said I have. do you have an issue about understanding what you read?

19.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:52 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 It´s a film and and old film at that!!! OK one phrase that could be considered racist.  I am sure there are plenty of films that can be considered racist, discrimantory, insulting, fascist, etc etc, and plenty of racist and insulting things have been said in films about British or German, or French or Italian or Japan, or Australia bla bla ............. but people move on!   

 

 Ouh we are SOOO liberated because we don´t care about insulting things about us? 

Well let´s face it (I can´t speak for Japan!!!), we do rather dominate the film industry don´t we?  There is not much chance of Turkey re-addressing the truth in any kind of world-wide way. 

 

Like it or not, the US and EU are a dominent force (for now) in many ways and how can Turkey fight it?  They are damned if they criticise the film, and damned if they stay silent and let people assume it is true.

 

I think we tend to forget this.

20.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:53 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

So you don´t think that any other movies have been made that portray any other nation or peoples in a bad light?

 

oh cool, just because there are other movies as well  which are racist, we should not consider the midnight express racist.

 

I love your reasoning.

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