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04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:53 pm |
So you don´t think that any other movies have been made that portray any other nation or peoples in a bad light?
oh cool, just because there are other movies as well which are racist, we should not consider the midnight express racist.
I love your reasoning.
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04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:56 pm |
So you don´t think that any other movies have been made that portray any other nation or peoples in a bad light?
As I mentioned earlier, when you look at the events from the perspective that ´ah the entire west is out there to get the Turks´ you come these type of conlcusion and you even BELIEVE them as if they are the only truth on earth..
Think about all your war movies about vietnam, think about ´platoon´, ´full metal jacket´ etc..
They put the your soldiers into characters who turned into blood thirsty maniacs which some of your soldiers were..
Would you come up and say that ´ahh this is all propaganda, all lies´?
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04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:56 pm |
one emphasis???
That is just one example from the movie. This film is full of these kinds of racist scenes. If you haven`t watched the movie or if you don`t understand what you watch, please don`t comment on it, cause you`re being funny.
how come its not racist if they make a movie in which all the Turks are portrayed as evil and all the non-Turks good?
It is one film. How many people have actually thought hhhmmmmm I wont go to Turkey because of "that film" and all Turks are like that. I don´t think so otherwise you would have no tourist industry.
I am not trying to be funny or offend you just pointing out reality.
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04 Dec 2008 Thu 11:59 pm |
oh cool, just because there are other movies as well which are racist, we should not consider the midnight express racist.
I love your reasoning.
I wasn´t denying that it is racist. I personally don´t like the film. I just don´t understand why you are so upset about it. It´s not even close to the actual story that was written by the actual person that these events happened to. The author of the book even stated that the movie does not reflect the actual events.....I am not reasoning...I am trying to understand why its such a big deal. Lots of movies are made that insult the US and they are often not true but its not something that I would get upset over.
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 12:00 am |
It is one film. How many people have actually thought hhhmmmmm I wont go to Turkey because of "that film" and all Turks are like that. I don´t think so otherwise you would have no tourist industry.
I am not trying to be funny or offend you just pointing out reality.
Libralady, it is obvious that you haven`t watched the movie, so please stop commenting on it and pretending that you have watched it.
people`s keeping coming to Turkey does not prove that this movie is not racist. If a movie is racist, it is racist, and this has nothing to do with tourism.
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 12:00 am |
Lots of movies are made that insult the US and they are often not true but its not something that I would get upset over.
Elisabeth, the US is in the lucky position of not CARING what anyone thinks - they are too powerful to give a damn.
It is fine to say that the author now retracts many of his "truths". However, how many people know of this, compared to the millions who viewed the film?
The film was a slap in the face to Turkey - you can´t deny it.
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 12:02 am |
It is one film. How many people have actually thought hhhmmmmm I wont go to Turkey because of "that film" and all Turks are like that. I don´t think so otherwise you would have no tourist industry.
You think this is just about tourism?!!
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 12:07 am |
Libralady, it is obvious that you haven`t watched the movie, so please stop commenting on it and pretending that you have watched it.
people`s keeping coming to Turkey does not prove that this movie is not racist
I have a copy and I have watched it a couple of times and I believe the prison portrayed in the film is now a hotel.
The actor who played the main part died of aids a few years ago. John Hurt played an excellent part. And I did not like the bit where the main characters´ cat was killed by the horrible prison warden, the one he killed at the end on the coat hooks.
OK I concede it is racist and it does not bear any relation to the number of people who have watched the film and still come to Turkey, because that are realistic enough to realise that it does not portray the everyday Turk accurately.
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 12:08 am |
It is one film. How many people have actually thought hhhmmmmm I wont go to Turkey because of "that film" and all Turks are like that. I don´t think so otherwise you would have no tourist industry.
I am not trying to be funny or offend you just pointing out reality.
I dont think tami watched the movie really..
There were only two sceenes I remember you could call racists..
But the movie itself was not racist at all..
As far as the environments in jails are concerned, I dont think the movie was lying at all..(But most the jails are quite ugly all over the world anyway)
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 12:10 am |
As far as the environments in jails are concerned, I dont think the movie was lying at all..(But most the jails are quite ugly all over the world anyway)
I agree. Surely though you see WHY Turkish people are offended by this film?
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 12:16 am |
I agree. Surely though you see WHY Turkish people are offended by this film?
I have already told above why Turks thinks offended about the movie..
´Turks only friends can be Turks only´ or they believe ´the entire world is out there to get Turks´
That is the way we were all brought up..
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