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40.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 03:59 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 yeah, maybe you are right, but your people will come out maybe 500 years later?

thats what i also say about my own country "quiet brainless sheep".

 

You do not exaggerate!!

Well as far as the democracy is concerned, we were almost at the same level in 1970s with Greece. We have almost identical culture.

That was my question in the first place:

What went wrong or what went missing or what they did but we did NOT? 

41.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:03 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

What went wrong or what went missing or what they did but we did NOT? 

 

 i know, but i will not tell you.

 

and i dont exaggerate. how come the honor killings from hundreds years are still in effect in this 21 century?

42.       doudi94
845 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:13 pm

You wanna know somethign about the police in Egypt?

Police here are feared by all, because of whats happening you can hardly trust them , because of thsi emergency law that ha sbeen going on for almost 30 years!!!!

This law gives the police to arrest anyone without any reason, people get scraed to got o the police stationa dn these things, because they get tortured in there and hit etc etc (even if theyd dint do anythign wrong!)

A policeman can arrest you if for example you didnt give him some money at the checking point.

I mean how can you trust the police if theyre harrasing girls in the streets and do things for money only?

I hate the egyptian police!

And ifyou know soembody that works oin the police (somebody fo a high rank) you can almost get away with anythign!!!

Like thsi one lady a couple of days ago, who was driving really fast and hit a guy (and witnesses say that even thoguh she saw him,, she made no effort to slow down) she hit the guy and he broke all these thinsg and paid the hospital 15000 pounds, and she got out with a 200 pound bail! (She probably ahd them in her purse!!!)

Almost anyone with power can egt away from anythiin, and the poorer you are, the more they hit you(These thinsg come oin the papers)

So sad right???

43.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:42 pm

 a corrupt sick mentality.

Quoting doudi94

You wanna know somethign about the police in Egypt?

Police here are feared by all, because of whats happening you can hardly trust them , because of thsi emergency law that ha sbeen going on for almost 30 years!!!!

This law gives the police to arrest anyone without any reason, people get scraed to got o the police stationa dn these things, because they get tortured in there and hit etc etc (even if theyd dint do anythign wrong!)

A policeman can arrest you if for example you didnt give him some money at the checking point.

I mean how can you trust the police if theyre harrasing girls in the streets and do things for money only?

I hate the egyptian police!

And ifyou know soembody that works oin the police (somebody fo a high rank) you can almost get away with anythign!!!

Like thsi one lady a couple of days ago, who was driving really fast and hit a guy (and witnesses say that even thoguh she saw him,, she made no effort to slow down) she hit the guy and he broke all these thinsg and paid the hospital 15000 pounds, and she got out with a 200 pound bail! (She probably ahd them in her purse!!!)

Almost anyone with power can egt away from anythiin, and the poorer you are, the more they hit you(These thinsg come oin the papers)

So sad right???

 

 

44.       MrX67
2540 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 05:24 pm

our hearts with innocent Greek people on this tragic and sad democracy fight,and we wish Greek people and all countries can fix democracy problems by more harmless methods...And every events show us all globe needs new solutions  for creat more livable world by the hugging all social and economical classes..

45.       doudi94
845 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 09:18 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 a corrupt sick mentality.

 

I know! Itsa ll the goverments fault too!

They should make tests for the police before putting them on the streets and this whole "emergency law" should end!!!

But you know , this doesnt mean that theyre all bad!

There aes ome taht afe still good, but the things  that teh goverment provides them with really arent helping them live, iv eheard that they get some of the loest salaries and have like really bad pensions etc etc, so how are they supposed to live and stuff without money?

Id also liek toa dd taht they walk arpund with their guns and stuff even off duty and like to show them to people so no one would tell the  anythign and to scare people, they think fear=respect1

IM SO MAAAAAAAAAD!

46.       vineyards
1954 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 09:21 pm

The police is very much like that almost everywhere in the world. It is just the amount of hypocrisy that changes. 

47.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 12:40 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Sui, I don´t expect you to agree because you cannot be objective on this subject.

 

So those who agree with you are the objective ones? lol

48.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 12:45 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 I agree with this ....

I was brought up in Ireland when and the police were armed it is about the matiurity of the society.....

between the period of 1971 and 1982 only 11 died by gunshot by the hands of police (officialy)

 

I am sure Ireland will catch up with the democracy one day too!!

49.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 01:01 am

I don´t understand why the police uses real bullets instead of simply knocking out people.. Wouldn´t it make more sense that way?

50.       lesluv
722 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 01:02 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

I am sure Ireland will catch up with the democracy one day too!!

 

 nah the police didn´t need to ....they were too busy killing each other!!

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