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Father refuses to donate kidney to 25-year-old son
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30.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 12:00 pm

 heck with such idiot father! but according to traditions the poor boy must respect him, even if hes such a piece of shit.

Quoting Trudy

Yasin Topaloðlu (25), who lives in the town of Hopa near Artvin and has already lost three siblings to kidney failure, is experiencing the disappointment of a lifetime: His father will not donate his kidney to him, despite the fact that the two men are a biological match.  Topaloðlu, whose kidneys both stopped functioning about five years ago, has been receiving treatment at the Trabzon Training and Research Hospital for the past two months. Topaloðlu has already lost two brothers and one sister to malfunctioning kidneys, and doctors recently decided that a kidney transplant was also necessary for him.

 

After doctors made clear the necessity of a kidney transplant for Topaloðlu, his father, Ali Topaloðlu, who had separated from his mother 10 years ago and since remarried and had two other children, went through the necessary blood tests to find out whether his kidney would be a match for his son. But while Ali Topaloðlu initially accepted the idea of kidney donation to his son, he later changed his mind.

 

And now Yasin Topaloðlu, who undergoes kidney dialysis three times a week, is experiencing deep frustration and disappointment with his father´s decision. "Well, despite everything, he is my father. I can´t get angry with him," Yasin Topaloðlu said in a statement to the Anatolia news agency. "All I really want from my father is that he contribute to my life span."

Topaloðlu, noting that he had a girlfriend with whom he had already made marriage plans, said: "My girlfriend´s father told me, ´I don´t have a daughter to just give to someone with kidney disease.´ And so I was crushed once more. I want someone to help me. Please, let someone hear my cries for help. I want to live."

Yasin Topaloðlu´s mother, Nilgün Erdoðan, talked about the difficulty of watching her own child in this situation. "In these difficult times, I try to be by his side. It is very difficult for him at this age, to try and live his life while being hooked up to dialysis," she said. "From a financial perspective, we do not have the money to pay for a kidney. His father´s kidney would be a match, but they made a family decision not to donate. I tried to convince his father, but it didn´t work. As it is, I have already lost three children to kidney failure. This is a very tough situation. If only my body matched the transplant conditions, I would give my own kidney without hesitating."   

 

More: http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=161528

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Poor son!

 

 

31.       libralady
5152 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 12:38 pm

 

Quoting tinababy

 very black and white. If only life were like that! Life makes you take decisions you previously thought you wouldn´t, but everybody´s judgements and opinions are coloured by life´s experiences. Maybe we shouldn´t be so quick to judge??

 

 I totally agree with you.  It is personal and people should not be judged because of the decisions they make in life or when their life ends.  That is one reason why the law in the UK did not change recently about donating organs etc.  It was considered that there should be an "opt out" rather than and "opt in" when a person dies in circumstances whereby organs can be donated.  The "opt out" would mean that doctors make the choice not the patients relatives.  I would prefer to make my own decisions about my family and not some stranger. 

 

I would not balk at the idea of organ or blood donation but I would never condem anyone who did not agree, as I have a very good friend who is a Jehovah Witness and I would no hold that against them even if I did not understand their logic.

32.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:01 pm

 alameda lol nobody forces you to do something good for others. take your body to earth and rotten it useless. theres no such law to force anyone to donate. its just a good will.

Quoting alameda

 No, I would not want a body part from a dead person, even if it could save my life.....but I also would not want any part of my body stolen like happened to Alistair Cook without permission....

 

"reports that a body-snatching ring, operating illegally to sell tissue for use in transplants, managed to obtain and distribute the bones of famed British broadcaster Alistair Cook after his death in 2004. Bill Sherman of the Daily News fills Madeleine Brand in on a bizarre story."

 

 

33.       vineyards
1954 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:22 pm

There are pros and cons of this whole thing too. Think of it as a highly profitable business the hot commodity of which is the human body and its parts. All sorts of abuses are possible. There are people whose kidneys were stolen or those who were forced to sell theirs either by force or through trickery or those who sold their organs to feed their families. This trade is done among three parties donors, doctors and receiving patients. In many cases the middle chain is also the corrupt chain with certain doctors and their accomplices accomplish this through illegal methods.

 

It is just an assumption to say that a dead body belongs to another entity such as the family of the deceased, the government or the medical organization hence it is in their authority to decide what to do with it. When you assume that you are disregarding so many personal rights. Furthermore, you are probably a very simple-minded person who doesn´t care about the subtleties of human life that is why you see nothing wrong in reducing this highly complicated matter that affects many people into a simple Boolean Equation. 

 

If you are thick as brick an organ transplantation will not change anything.

34.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:25 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

There are pros and cons of this whole thing too. Think of it as a highly profitable business the hot commodity of which is the human body and its parts. All sorts of abuses are possible. There are people whose kidneys were stolen or those who were forced to sell theirs either by force or through trickery or those who sold their organs to feed their families. This trade is done among three parties donors, doctors and receiving patients. In many cases the middle chain is also the corrupt chain with certain doctors and their accomplices accomplish this through illegal methods.

 

It is just an assumption to say that a dead body belongs to another entity such as the family of the deceased, the government or the medical organization hence it is in their authority to decide what to do with it. When you assume that you are disregarding so many personal rights. Furthermore, you are probably a very simple-minded person who doesn´t care about the subtleties of human life that is why you see nothing wrong in reducing this highly complicated matter that affects many people into a simple Boolean Equation. 

 

If you are thick as brick an organ transplantation will not change anything.

 

 then you are a double brick if you cant donate your kidney to your child. end of story!

35.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:28 pm

folks, what for do you need your body after you die? are you going to use it in afterlife? lol

36.       vineyards
1954 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:28 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 then you are a double brick if you cant donate your kidney to your child. end of story!

 

I was not specifically referring to you there but of course, you couldn´t help saying "me too". 

 

I did not say anything about my personal decisions in this matter. I would donate my entire body after death (I haven´t done anything about it yet) and I would certainly donate any of my organs to my son including the vital ones.

37.       libralady
5152 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:32 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

folks, what for do you need your body after you die? are you going to use it in afterlife? lol

 

 Absolutely nothing!  Only good for the maggots or the oven. And there is no afterlife.

38.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:34 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

 

I would donate my entire body after death (I haven´t done anything about it yet) and I would certainly donate any of my organs to my son including the vital ones.

 

 that sounds better now lol

39.       vineyards
1954 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:34 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Absolutely nothing!  Only good for the maggots or the oven. And there is no afterlife.

 

Ditto. There is no afterlife.

40.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 01:35 pm

 

Quoting libralady

  there is no afterlife.

 

 oh dear dear, this you cant proove. lol

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