Better being paranoid than sorry, wouldnt you say ?!

Specially with the current events we have in the area .

Only if Saddam was a little bit paranoid !

I agree with the current events part..That paranoia gave us 40 to 70 thousand deads for example..

They are saying that 17.000 gone missing in the south east and they are looking for their remains in acid wells..

In fact almost more than 1/3 of our budget went away that way..

All those deads are related to the paranoia we are talking about here..

Saddam was a great paranoid as well.. That was the reason why he killed many of his own citizens.. 

 Yes, since the beginning of the Republic of Turkey (the sucessor to the Ottoman Empire)...after loosing most of the Ottoman lands........after the rejection of the Treaty of Sevres

Old Ottoman lands are now in turmoil.....hmmmm.....Palestine....Iraq...Lebanon.....Syria....and....and....

 Ãf he was a little bit paranoid as you said, he wouldnt have believed that embassador !

Dont mix things handsom, none defend what Sadam did to those people, but also there is no excuse to interfear in any country´s affair.

Like it or not, we live in a very special area, and that is not something new

Ýt has been same through the years....read history, it goes that far  !

So if we dont learn anything after all from what we have been through and being through, we should deserve what we would get !

Ýts understandable if we have been called like that ´paranoid ´ by who were/are not in our shoes, but actually you ought to know better !

You know the history of the area well i assume, and you can read what is happening around.

I think you missed the entire point completely.

Nobody is calling us as paranoid from outside.  Some of the insiders (including me) calling us. 

Paranoia is one of the necessary elements of supressing people..

As an "outsider" I agree that paranoia is a necessary element to supressing people.  However, I would certainly be a little angry and warey myself if such a map was being bandied about about my country, showing it carved up to accommodate a "new" country!

However old this map is, whatever the excuse for it, the fact is that it is still being shown and "considered" - so let´s allow the Turks a little justified paranoia on this occasion shall "we"?

Honour killings in the UK have hit record levels too - over 100 KNOWN incidents last year.This NOT a Turkish problem, it is a cultural one which affects all countries now.

We should be blaming the cultures which perpetuate these vile and outdated practices.  We should also blame those people who protect such cultures, describe them as quaint and pure and consider them sacrosanct (not mentioning any names here).

A culture which puts "family name" before the life of your child or sibling is inhuman and disgusting and such "culture" or "tradition" should never be defended.

like your ergenekon paranoia?

I am not sure if you are reading Ergenekon case clearly.

It is very much related to missing 17.000 kurds whom they are looking for in acid wells now...

Missing 17.000 did not bother you but finding the killers are  bothering you?

so are the killers Ilhan Selcuk and Mustafa Balbay?

Anybody who knows how to use photoshop can draw a map. This one happens to be coming from an ex USA army personell.

It is just annoying.. 

But being just annoyed is much different that showing this map for as a proof of our chronical xenophobia and hating of foreigners..

Then comes talking about Kurdish rights is supressed with ´ah they are just trying to devide us´; comes butchering christians in malatya; comes sending 17.000 people into acid wells.

Once people believe their  paranioa is a THE real thing, they easily justify what they are doing..

if you ask the killer of H dink, he will say to you that he has done it because he was simply protecting the country. From whom? from foreigners. why? because they want to devide us..

The level of democracy we have now in Turkey is much related to this paranoia..