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American Fascism Awareness Day
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30.       Kiara
145 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 05:30 pm

Quote:Tamiki

But then again America is the country of freedoms right?

 

If you knew me, you would know that I don´t for a minute think that "freedom" comes without a price, nor do I believe that "freedom" comes without responsibility to use that freedom appropriately Big smile

 

Also, one more thing...and then I think I´ll quit Big smile

 

Quote: Tamiki

just like America takes the freedom of many countries away? Should we get rid of it too?

 

Communism is not a country...it is an ideal, or a form of government. I believe some forms of government that simply oppress people and take away their rights should be done away with. But I wouldn´t want to wipe out the country who practiced communism, I would want to rescue them from it. So, no, we shouldn´t get rid of America, however, there are ideals or certain things about the government that we should get rid of (as in any country!).

 

Okay, I just wanted to clarify that statement Big smile   

Have a great day Flowers

31.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 09:25 pm

Communism? No, thank you - been there, done that, never again!

32.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 09:47 pm

 

Quoting Kiara

yes, but doesn´t Communism sorta work against freedom? From what I hear, they tend to take your freedom away!!

 

Kiara, Communism is a form of socioeconomic structure where the wealth of a country is held in common ownership.  One can be both communist and democratic. Any form of government can take one´s freedom away, and many do.

 

It looks like the US actually has more of an oligarch. That is, rule by the elite,  not the people.  Just look at our election process.  How many poor people run? If you can get air time, that is if the TV stations like you, you may get your ideas presented.  Who owns the media?  Here is a clickable chart of media ownership.  Just whose interests do you think they represent?

 

It´s sad to say, but is is not likely Lincoln would have been able to win an election today.

 

 List of forms of government
Anarchy
Aristocracy
Authoritarianism
Autocracy
Communist state
Confederation
Corporatocracy
Consociational state
Demarchy
Democracy
Direct
Representative
Consensus
Despotism
Dictatorship
Military
Ethnocracy
Exilarchy
Federation
Feudalism
Military junta
Kleptocracy
Kratocracy
Kritocracy
Kritarchy
Logocracy
Meritocracy
Geniocracy
Minarchism/Night Watchman
Monarchy
Absolute
Constitutional
Diarchy/Co-Kingship
Noocracy
Ochlocracy/Mobocracy
Oligarchy
Panarchism
Plutocracy
Puppet state
Republic
Crowned
Capitalist
Constitutional
Federal
Parliamentary

Federal
Socialist state
Sociocracy
Technocracy
Cyberocracy
Netocracy
Theocracy
Theodemocracy
Timocracy
Totalitarianism
Tribal
Chiefdom

 

source



Edited (4/10/2009) by alameda [spelling]
Edited (4/10/2009) by alameda [added link :-)]

33.       Kiara
145 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 10:26 pm

Quote:Alameda

Communism is a form of socioeconomic structure where the wealth of a country is held in common ownership.  One can be both communist and democratic. Any form of government can take one´s freedom away, and many do.

 

All that I´ve ever read about communism was that the structure was meant to be set up that way, however what ended up happening is that the government took what they wanted from the people and kept them from being able to leave their country -- even for a vacation. My understanding of communism is a very very controlled society! No thank you!

34.       DaveT
70 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 10:32 pm

"American Facism Awareness Day" was a hoax. In 2007, some college students wrote and distributed a rather unclever flier  on "American Facism Awareness Day" which set off a minor furore at their campus. The perpetrators came out with an immediate retraction/explanation.  For anyone wanting details, including the retraction, check out some of the links at:

 

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/islamo_fascism_awareness_week/

 

Only a dedicated troll would post this sort of inflammatory garbage on this forum at this late date.

 

35.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 10:36 pm

 

Quoting Kiara

 

 

All that I´ve ever read about communism was that the structure was meant to be set up that way, however what ended up happening is that the government took what they wanted from the people and kept them from being able to leave their country -- even for a vacation. My understanding of communism is a very very controlled society! No thank you!

 

 Yes, that is what happened in "so called" communist countries. That is actually fascism, very much influenced by Stalinist ideology.  From what I´ve heard that was a real nightmare!

 

The bottom line is the citizens of any country need to be informed and active in watching what is going on.  Unfortunately, most are too busy to get involved and active. Then again, in order to be effective, one needs time and resources....democracy is not easy.

36.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 10:55 pm

 

Quoting DaveT

"American Facism Awareness Day" was a hoax. In 2007, some college students wrote and distributed a rather unclever flier  on "American Facism Awareness Day" which set off a minor furore at their campus. The perpetrators came out with an immediate retraction/explanation.  For anyone wanting details, including the retraction, check out some of the links at:

 

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/islamo_fascism_awareness_week/

 

Only a dedicated troll would post this sort of inflammatory garbage on this forum at this late date.

 

 

 

got offended, you blockhead? it`s fascism, not "facism"!

 

37.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Apr 2009 Fri 10:58 pm

 

Quoting DaveT

"American Facism Awareness Day" was a hoax. In 2007, some college students wrote and distributed a rather unclever flier  on "American Facism Awareness Day" which set off a minor furore at their campus. The perpetrators came out with an immediate retraction/explanation.  For anyone wanting details, including the retraction, check out some of the links at:

 

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/islamo_fascism_awareness_week/

 

Only a dedicated troll would post this sort of inflammatory garbage on this forum at this late date.

 

 

+++Flowers ... and David Horowitz and his FrontPageMag is a real crock of blank .... it´s intention was to provoke  and it did.



Edited (4/11/2009) by alameda [edit]

38.       alameda
3499 posts
 11 Apr 2009 Sat 01:58 am

 

Quoting DaveT

Only a dedicated troll would post this sort of inflammatory garbage on this forum at this late date.

 

 

I wouldn´t be so hard on Tami. 

I don´t think he did anything but surf the Net and found an article he thought would be food for thought....debate....

 

Here is background on the event/article:

 

Where´s the Awarness?

 

Hopefully, we are past that now.

39.       DaveT
70 posts
 11 Apr 2009 Sat 04:20 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

I wouldn´t be so hard on Tami. 

I don´t think he did anything but surf the Net and found an article he thought would be food for thought....debate....

 

 

That´s a nice, conciliatory thought. Except...

 

He edited the October 15, 2007 publication date out of his cut-and-paste, thus very strongly implying that it was a current story. That´s dishonest. That´s the sort of thing trolls do.

 

Later on in his cut-and-paste, he edited the November 31, 2007 date out of the event schedule, demonstrating that he is not only dishonest but not especially bright. Thirty days has September, etc.

 



Edited (4/11/2009) by DaveT [Grammatical error - plural "days", "has" not "have" to agree; corrected traditional saying to "September" from "November".]

40.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 11 Apr 2009 Sat 09:39 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

 

got offended, you blockhead? it`s fascism, not "facism"!

 

 

 The best you can do is correct his typo? Laugh at

Give me a blockhead any day over a hypocritical bore who chooses to live in a country that he clearly despises and takes every opportunity to slam and yet and uses it to get the education he wants. No way

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