By Ishmael Vera
FrontPageMagazine.com

The campaign mounted by campus leftists against Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, which is scheduled to take place on more than 100 campuses during the week of October 22-26 has taken a new turn with the announcement of a counter-protest at the Washington Monument. The protest, which will be called “American Fascism Awareness Day” is being organized by Adam Kokesh of Iraq Veterans Against the War, the Revolutionary Communist Party, Students for Justice In Palestine, and the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee among others and will feature speakers such as congressman Dennis Kucinich and presidential candidate Ron Paul, anti-war activists Cindy Sheehan and Harry Karry and actor Sean Penn. According to a spokesperson for the Revolutionary Communist Party, one of the sponsors of the event, “This is an answer to the Jew Horowitz and the neo-conservative Zionists who dragged us into an imperialist war in Iraq and are spreading hatred against Muslims to support their war plans against the Republic of Iran.”

Flyers for the American Fascism Awareness Protest were distributed on at least ten campuses which are scheduled to hold Islamo-Fascism Awareness Weeks in 9 days. (The text of the flyer is reprinted below.) Many Americans contacted by Frontpagemag.com were outraged over the announced protest. Latisha Freeman, an African American student at one of the campuses that was flyered commented that all Americans were not racists and that the flyer was generally “unpatriotic and unfair.” American Legion commander K. “Ike” Landsman, was blunter. “These are communist ingrates who don´t appreciate this great country and they ought to be deported to Iran or Afghanistan where they would be welcome." Fox News Channel anchor Alan Colmes, had a different take. “Lighten up,” Colmes said when he was shown the flyer; “this is a parody of views that liberals actually have. No one should get upset. This is just free speech in action.”

Who Hates Americans? We Do.

                                    Your typical American is:

                                    Ø A racist. A sexist. A homophobe.

                                    Ø An Islamo-phobe.

                                    Ø Is willing to invade other countries for oil and pleasure.

                                    Ø Is easily manipulated by Rush Limbaugh and Jews.

                                    Ø Is the cause of global warming.

Join Us For American Fascism Awareness Day

Place: Washington (Slaveholder) Monument

Time: 12PM-2:00 PM

Speakers:

                                        Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, congressmen
                                        Adam Kokesh, Iraq War veteran
                                        Chris Hedges, journalist
                                        Cindy Sheehan, Harry Karry, peace activists
                                        Michael Moore, Sean Penn, film-makers

Sponsors:

Peace and Social Justice Crusade, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Code Pink, Muslim Students Association, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, Students for Justice in Palestine, Revolutionary Communist Party, International A.N.S.W.E.R., Moveon.org, DailyKos.com, Indy-Media.org, HuffingtonPost.com, Ivorypower.com

Wow!! I just have one question? If they hate America so much, then why do they want to live here? I understand there are things about every country that aren´t good (America included), but not all Americans fit this list nor do most even come close!

+1,000

It´s a matter of hypocrisy, they abandon their "perfect" states, come to the US and immediately complain that the place they chose is not like the countries they abandoned It should be simple - you don´t like it, get back to where you came from. I believe the US is no longer into importing slaves, right?Then I may assume those people come there by choice. Why would they want to live in a country they hate so much?

Right! Last time I looked there were no slaves imported!! Choice...yes, they come totally by choice...I think some people are just born to fight/argue/"stir the pot"!!

tamiki is exactly one of those people.

Kiara said: "[I put the D too close to the : in daydreamer and it made a happy face ]"

Daydreamer often makes happy faces

they? who are them? they are Americans who have started this campaign, not "outsiders" . But those American fascists like you will never consider them American because they are not bigots.

 I bet she does

can we say the same thing for those who live in Turkey and still hate it? But Im sure dd and cw would label me as a fascist if I did that!

Im wondering why cw and dd come to Turkey if they are against it.

that`s what I would expect to hear from a typical American bigot! But then again America is the country of freedoms right?

yes, but doesn´t Communism sorta work against freedom? From what I hear, they tend to take your freedom away!!

hmmmm.....are you actually calling me an "American bigot"  hahahahahahahaha   "You don´t know me....you don´t know me at all!!" hahahahaha

BTW...that´s a song by Ben Folds Feet and Regina Spektor (just in case you were wondering )

just like America takes the freedom of many countries away? Should we get rid of it too?

I truly am sorry for this! I don´t agree with everything my country does...but I love living here!

Can I ask where you are from?

check out the pm!

well then for once why do you support it by being here?

for two, you are a bigot and fascist too if you make your claims about the American people, because if you knew something at all, you´d know that it´s not the people who make these political decisions..

for three... you should be fair and judge your own country according to the same standards, which you don´t.

just like you make claims about muslims, I can make claims about the Americans. and if that makes me a bigot, you`re as much of a bigot as me.

and how do you know I don`t judge my own country, I can prove you wrong with my previous posts if you want. at least, Ive never told you and your gang members not to come to Turkey again when you criticized Turkey.

I think in any situation we seriously have to look at the individual here and not stereotype people/countries as a whole. That´s where we run into trouble. The views of a leadership/government/ or even the general concensus of any people is NOT necessarily the view of individuals. The more education people have the less stereotypical they become!

 it`s ok!

 Oh Tami, a girl, you?  Will you join the ´girlish´ topics now as well?

Quote:Trudy

 Oh Tami, a girl, you?

ooopppss!!  I realized my mistake....Tami is not a girl

If you knew me, you would know that I don´t for a minute think that "freedom" comes without a price, nor do I believe that "freedom" comes without responsibility to use that freedom appropriately

Also, one more thing...and then I think I´ll quit

Communism is not a country...it is an ideal, or a form of government. I believe some forms of government that simply oppress people and take away their rights should be done away with. But I wouldn´t want to wipe out the country who practiced communism, I would want to rescue them from it. So, no, we shouldn´t get rid of America, however, there are ideals or certain things about the government that we should get rid of (as in any country!).

Okay, I just wanted to clarify that statement    

Have a great day

Communism? No, thank you - been there, done that, never again!

Kiara, Communism is a form of socioeconomic structure where the wealth of a country is held in common ownership.  One can be both communist and democratic. Any form of government can take one´s freedom away, and many do.

It looks like the US actually has more of an oligarch. That is, rule by the elite,  not the people.  Just look at our election process.  How many poor people run? If you can get air time, that is if the TV stations like you, you may get your ideas presented.  Who owns the media?  Here is a clickable chart of media ownership.  Just whose interests do you think they represent?

It´s sad to say, but is is not likely Lincoln would have been able to win an election today.

 List of forms of government
Anarchy
Aristocracy
Authoritarianism
Autocracy
Communist state
Confederation
Corporatocracy
Consociational state
Demarchy
Democracy
Direct
Representative
Consensus
Despotism
Dictatorship
Military
Ethnocracy
Exilarchy
Federation
Feudalism
Military junta
Kleptocracy
Kratocracy
Kritocracy
Kritarchy
Logocracy
Meritocracy
Geniocracy
Minarchism/Night Watchman
Monarchy
Absolute
Constitutional
Diarchy/Co-Kingship
Noocracy
Ochlocracy/Mobocracy
Oligarchy
Panarchism
Plutocracy
Puppet state
Republic
Crowned
Capitalist
Constitutional
Federal
Parliamentary

Federal
Socialist state
Sociocracy
Technocracy
Cyberocracy
Netocracy
Theocracy
Theodemocracy
Timocracy
Totalitarianism
Tribal
Chiefdom

source

All that I´ve ever read about communism was that the structure was meant to be set up that way, however what ended up happening is that the government took what they wanted from the people and kept them from being able to leave their country -- even for a vacation. My understanding of communism is a very very controlled society! No thank you!

"American Facism Awareness Day" was a hoax. In 2007, some college students wrote and distributed a rather unclever flier  on "American Facism Awareness Day" which set off a minor furore at their campus. The perpetrators came out with an immediate retraction/explanation.  For anyone wanting details, including the retraction, check out some of the links at:

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/islamo_fascism_awareness_week/

Only a dedicated troll would post this sort of inflammatory garbage on this forum at this late date.

 Yes, that is what happened in "so called" communist countries. That is actually fascism, very much influenced by Stalinist ideology.  From what I´ve heard that was a real nightmare!

The bottom line is the citizens of any country need to be informed and active in watching what is going on.  Unfortunately, most are too busy to get involved and active. Then again, in order to be effective, one needs time and resources....democracy is not easy.

got offended, you blockhead? it`s fascism, not "facism"!

+++ ... and David Horowitz and his FrontPageMag is a real crock of blank .... it´s intention was to provoke  and it did.

I wouldn´t be so hard on Tami. 

I don´t think he did anything but surf the Net and found an article he thought would be food for thought....debate....

Here is background on the event/article:

Where´s the Awarness?

Hopefully, we are past that now.

That´s a nice, conciliatory thought. Except...

He edited the October 15, 2007 publication date out of his cut-and-paste, thus very strongly implying that it was a current story. That´s dishonest. That´s the sort of thing trolls do.

Later on in his cut-and-paste, he edited the November 31, 2007 date out of the event schedule, demonstrating that he is not only dishonest but not especially bright. Thirty days has September, etc.

 The best you can do is correct his typo?

Give me a blockhead any day over a hypocritical bore who chooses to live in a country that he clearly despises and takes every opportunity to slam and yet and uses it to get the education he wants.

you`re stuck with the same old argument, Aunt Menopause?

and it`s not a typo! your dear blockhead really thinks that it`s the correct spelling.

and yet, despite that one word it´s still DaveT that is right, not you, Tami

Yeah, this is what kind of ´food for thought sort of debate´ he wanted to initiate:

 Easy mistake to make......... I have an American girl friend called Tammy

 Can you name one??  Most communist countries are also corrupt...........

 .....but being corrupt doesn´t stop them being democratic does it?

 Off  hand, no.  Hypothetically they can.   I saddly report, I think most "actual" governments are corrupt.  You know the saying by John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton:  "Power Corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

I don´t know a communistic country that would also be democratic. Communism as practised in Eastern europe was dreadful. The idea of getting rid of social classes and making everything everybody´s possession might not have been that bad in theory but in practice it resulted in catastrophe. If everything belongs to everyone then it belongs to no one. Vandalism, laziness and not caring stemed from it. Everybody had to work. It seems not a bad idea but...no matter how badly you worked you wouldn´t get fired. Hence a saying "Whether you´re standing or lying down, you´re entitled to the dough"

Communistic economy resulted in empty shops with vinegar on shelves only. To buy food you had to spend half of your day in a queue, food was rationalised and you needed vouchers. I´d see oranges (Cuban ones) only at Christmas, sanitary things like cotton wool or toilet paper were a luxury. To by a Russian colour tv you had to spend 3 days in a queue. Fun, right?

And that´s just an average citizen life, if you were a person who cannot keep silent about not having the right of freedom of speech, you´d be arrested, tortured and imprisoned. Workers´ protests were "pacified" with guns. Many people lost their lives to free our country. Ordinary people, shipyard workers, miners, factory workers...I´m glad they did as now I can enjoy freedom. Communism? Never again!

 Bit too quick posting........... I don´t know of one communist country that is democratic, otherwise they would not be communist!

 Yes, I know DD. I´m just talking about the abstract ideal of "communism"    It´s a system that I don´t think would ever work other than in a community of Saints.  Even then, people need to get credit for their efforts.  Some do more, some do as little as they can.  If they do more, or better, I think they should be rewarded for it.

I do think we have very unfair exploitation process via who has the most capital to capitalize on...and they get more capital....and on it goes.  I don´t know what the perfect system is, but where those with wealth compound it generation after generation, not based on any inherent value they add, but just based on the fact that they have it and others don´t isn´t great either.  When I see the saleries some of the Financial people got, and the public bailout funds they got...AIG, Goldman Sachs....) and what a mess

they made, it makes me see red.  

What you mention about lack of freedom of speech and all, really has nothing to do with the ideal of communism.  Ideally if things are shared, everyone would have an equal voice...no? 

If I make a better mouse trap, why shouldn´t I benefit? On the other hand, there are entities who only capitalize on the efforts of someone long dead making benefit off their inventions, and they have not invented anything, they just exploit. 

The Capitalist system leaves a bad taste too. To often the poor get poorer....common resources are privitized....even water.  I can´t believe they are privitizing water.

Vandana Shiva has something to say about it

I had a dance company once and was concerned how to equitably share profits.  It was hard, but I figured giving the members shares based on the amount they put into the project was the best way.  Some only got one share, others got two or three shares. I got the most shares, but I put in the most work....and $$$.

Unfortunately, there is no perfect system Or, if there is, it hasn´t been introduced yet. Ideas beyond each one will never work out because of the human factor.

"What you mention about lack of freedom of speech and all, really has nothing to do with the ideal of communism.  Ideally if things are shared, everyone would have an equal voice...no? "

Yes, equal voice provided it´s unanimous. Everybody who dares to criticise the "one and only just system" is to be punished. People opposing the government´s policy were identified as traitors and convicted...

Regarding the "human factor", I agree with you.  Every system was confronted with those who wanted to subvert it to their wants.  It is only with an informed, active citizenry things can be kept in line.  Unfortunately, most humans are too busy  (or is it lazy?) to be bothered.  Even then, in a democratic system, the people can be manipulated.  I am realizing how difficult the whole thing is.

On occasion, when conditions become so unbearable or unsustainable, things change.  They eventually slide back again after a while.  It´s been happening for thousands of years, and most probably will continue for as long as humans exist.

We specialize.  That is one of the traits that enabled us to develop civilizations.  We had the baker, tailor, and so forth.  The problem is, we have forgotten to look at the big picture, and in fact much of the ability to actually see the larger picture is diminished. 

United we stand, divided we fall..."First they came for ....

Damn, I missed some good posts here.  Sorry to see Tami leave this site.  I actually enjoyed our conversations.

 And I was duped into thinking I was the only one!!!!! Hey Teas, do you want to be my Facebook friend??? k

btw you are no longer bed Amerikans now Obama is in power............. all Amerikens are gud  

Who told you we are all gud???    Somebody has been lying to you!

 Tamam, all but you....

 Speculating!!!!   So I don´t want to spoil your cred - you are still the beddest of all Amerekens.......... and Teas is second beddest...... Elisabeth is the guddest  (so I don´t leave her out  

I made it in the top three...

 there only are three

 We just happen to stand out..among the beddest.

 Jealous there is no ´Evil Brit List´?

 why would I be jealous.....I am an angel

 ...I thought you were the Tooth Fairy! 

 Was sacked!! I forgot about the tooth fairy duty and had to tell 6 year old that it was Bank holiday Monday in Tooth Fairy Land oops!!

 Actually, there are more than three.....

 Still wrong...there are more than that....