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American Fascism Awareness Day
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11 Apr 2009 Sat 09:39 am |
got offended, you blockhead? it`s fascism, not "facism"!
The best you can do is correct his typo?
Give me a blockhead any day over a hypocritical bore who chooses to live in a country that he clearly despises and takes every opportunity to slam and yet and uses it to get the education he wants.
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11 Apr 2009 Sat 01:35 pm |
The best you can do is correct his typo?
Give me a blockhead any day over a hypocritical bore who chooses to live in a country that he clearly despises and takes every opportunity to slam and yet and uses it to get the education he wants.
you`re stuck with the same old argument, Aunt Menopause?
and it`s not a typo! your dear blockhead really thinks that it`s the correct spelling.
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11 Apr 2009 Sat 02:00 pm |
and yet, despite that one word it´s still DaveT that is right, not you, Tami
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11 Apr 2009 Sat 11:21 pm |
I don´t think he did anything but surf the Net and found an article he thought would be food for thought....debate....
Yeah, this is what kind of ´food for thought sort of debate´ he wanted to initiate:
got offended, you blockhead? it`s fascism, not "facism"!
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15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:40 pm |
ooopppss!! I realized my mistake....Tami is not a girl
Easy mistake to make......... I have an American girl friend called Tammy
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15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:43 pm |
Kiara, Communism is a form of socioeconomic structure where the wealth of a country is held in common ownership. One can be both communist and democratic. Any form of government can take one´s freedom away, and many do.
It looks like the US actually has more of an oligarch. That is, rule by the elite, not the people. Just look at our election process. How many poor people run? If you can get air time, that is if the TV stations like you, you may get your ideas presented. Who owns the media? Here is a clickable chart of media ownership. Just whose interests do you think they represent?
It´s sad to say, but is is not likely Lincoln would have been able to win an election today.
List of forms of government Anarchy Aristocracy Authoritarianism Autocracy Communist state Confederation Corporatocracy Consociational state Demarchy Democracy Direct Representative Consensus Despotism Dictatorship Military Ethnocracy Exilarchy Federation Feudalism Military junta Kleptocracy Kratocracy Kritocracy Kritarchy Logocracy Meritocracy Geniocracy Minarchism/Night Watchman Monarchy Absolute Constitutional Diarchy/Co-Kingship Noocracy Ochlocracy/Mobocracy Oligarchy Panarchism Plutocracy Puppet state Republic Crowned Capitalist Constitutional Federal Parliamentary
Federal Socialist state Sociocracy Technocracy Cyberocracy Netocracy Theocracy Theodemocracy Timocracy Totalitarianism Tribal Chiefdom
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Can you name one?? Most communist countries are also corrupt...........
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16 Apr 2009 Thu 12:53 am |
Can you name one?? Most communist countries are also corrupt...........
.....but being corrupt doesn´t stop them being democratic does it?
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16 Apr 2009 Thu 01:05 am |
Can you name one?? Most communist countries are also corrupt...........
Off hand, no. Hypothetically they can. I saddly report, I think most "actual" governments are corrupt. You know the saying by John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton: "Power Corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
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16 Apr 2009 Thu 03:17 pm |
I don´t know a communistic country that would also be democratic. Communism as practised in Eastern europe was dreadful. The idea of getting rid of social classes and making everything everybody´s possession might not have been that bad in theory but in practice it resulted in catastrophe. If everything belongs to everyone then it belongs to no one. Vandalism, laziness and not caring stemed from it. Everybody had to work. It seems not a bad idea but...no matter how badly you worked you wouldn´t get fired. Hence a saying "Whether you´re standing or lying down, you´re entitled to the dough"
Communistic economy resulted in empty shops with vinegar on shelves only. To buy food you had to spend half of your day in a queue, food was rationalised and you needed vouchers. I´d see oranges (Cuban ones) only at Christmas, sanitary things like cotton wool or toilet paper were a luxury. To by a Russian colour tv you had to spend 3 days in a queue. Fun, right?
And that´s just an average citizen life, if you were a person who cannot keep silent about not having the right of freedom of speech, you´d be arrested, tortured and imprisoned. Workers´ protests were "pacified" with guns. Many people lost their lives to free our country. Ordinary people, shipyard workers, miners, factory workers...I´m glad they did as now I can enjoy freedom. Communism? Never again!
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16 Apr 2009 Thu 08:04 pm |
.....but being corrupt doesn´t stop them being democratic does it?
Bit too quick posting........... I don´t know of one communist country that is democratic, otherwise they would not be communist!
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16 Apr 2009 Thu 11:06 pm |
I don´t know a communistic country that would also be democratic. Communism as practised in Eastern europe was dreadful. The idea of getting rid of social classes and making everything everybody´s possession might not have been that bad in theory but in practice it resulted in catastrophe. If everything belongs to everyone then it belongs to no one. Vandalism, laziness and not caring stemed from it. Everybody had to work. It seems not a bad idea but...no matter how badly you worked you wouldn´t get fired. Hence a saying "Whether you´re standing or lying down, you´re entitled to the dough"
Communistic economy resulted in empty shops with vinegar on shelves only. To buy food you had to spend half of your day in a queue, food was rationalised and you needed vouchers. I´d see oranges (Cuban ones) only at Christmas, sanitary things like cotton wool or toilet paper were a luxury. To by a Russian colour tv you had to spend 3 days in a queue. Fun, right?
And that´s just an average citizen life, if you were a person who cannot keep silent about not having the right of freedom of speech, you´d be arrested, tortured and imprisoned. Workers´ protests were "pacified" with guns. Many people lost their lives to free our country. Ordinary people, shipyard workers, miners, factory workers...I´m glad they did as now I can enjoy freedom. Communism? Never again!
Yes, I know DD. I´m just talking about the abstract ideal of "communism" It´s a system that I don´t think would ever work other than in a community of Saints. Even then, people need to get credit for their efforts. Some do more, some do as little as they can. If they do more, or better, I think they should be rewarded for it.
I do think we have very unfair exploitation process via who has the most capital to capitalize on...and they get more capital....and on it goes. I don´t know what the perfect system is, but where those with wealth compound it generation after generation, not based on any inherent value they add, but just based on the fact that they have it and others don´t isn´t great either. When I see the saleries some of the Financial people got, and the public bailout funds they got...AIG, Goldman Sachs....) and what a mess
they made, it makes me see red.
What you mention about lack of freedom of speech and all, really has nothing to do with the ideal of communism. Ideally if things are shared, everyone would have an equal voice...no?
If I make a better mouse trap, why shouldn´t I benefit? On the other hand, there are entities who only capitalize on the efforts of someone long dead making benefit off their inventions, and they have not invented anything, they just exploit.
The Capitalist system leaves a bad taste too. To often the poor get poorer....common resources are privitized....even water. I can´t believe they are privitizing water.
Vandana Shiva has something to say about it
I had a dance company once and was concerned how to equitably share profits. It was hard, but I figured giving the members shares based on the amount they put into the project was the best way. Some only got one share, others got two or three shares. I got the most shares, but I put in the most work....and $$$.
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