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40.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 11 Apr 2009 Sat 09:39 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

 

got offended, you blockhead? it`s fascism, not "facism"!

 

 

 The best you can do is correct his typo? Laugh at

Give me a blockhead any day over a hypocritical bore who chooses to live in a country that he clearly despises and takes every opportunity to slam and yet and uses it to get the education he wants. No way

41.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 11 Apr 2009 Sat 01:35 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 The best you can do is correct his typo? Laugh at

Give me a blockhead any day over a hypocritical bore who chooses to live in a country that he clearly despises and takes every opportunity to slam and yet and uses it to get the education he wants. No way

 

you`re stuck with the same old argument, Aunt Menopause?Laugh at

 

and it`s not a typo! your dear blockhead really thinks that it`s the correct spelling.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

42.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Apr 2009 Sat 02:00 pm

and yet, despite that one word it´s still DaveT that is right, not you, Tami lol

43.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Apr 2009 Sat 11:21 pm

 

Quoting alameda

I don´t think he did anything but surf the Net and found an article he thought would be food for thought....debate....

 

Yeah, this is what kind of ´food for thought sort of debate´ he wanted to initiate:

 

 

Quoting tamikidakika

got offended, you blockhead? it`s fascism, not "facism"!

 

You crazy?

44.       libralady
5152 posts
 15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:40 pm

 

Quoting Kiara

 

Big smile ooopppss!!Big smile  I realized my mistake....Tami is not a girl Big smile

 

 Easy mistake to make......... I have an American girl friend called Tammy Satisfied nod

45.       libralady
5152 posts
 15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:43 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Kiara, Communism is a form of socioeconomic structure where the wealth of a country is held in common ownership.  One can be both communist and democratic. Any form of government can take one´s freedom away, and many do.

 

It looks like the US actually has more of an oligarch. That is, rule by the elite,  not the people.  Just look at our election process.  How many poor people run? If you can get air time, that is if the TV stations like you, you may get your ideas presented.  Who owns the media?  Here is a clickable chart of media ownership.  Just whose interests do you think they represent?

 

It´s sad to say, but is is not likely Lincoln would have been able to win an election today.

 

 List of forms of government
Anarchy
Aristocracy
Authoritarianism
Autocracy
Communist state
Confederation
Corporatocracy
Consociational state
Demarchy
Democracy
Direct
Representative
Consensus
Despotism
Dictatorship
Military
Ethnocracy
Exilarchy
Federation
Feudalism
Military junta
Kleptocracy
Kratocracy
Kritocracy
Kritarchy
Logocracy
Meritocracy
Geniocracy
Minarchism/Night Watchman
Monarchy
Absolute
Constitutional
Diarchy/Co-Kingship
Noocracy
Ochlocracy/Mobocracy
Oligarchy
Panarchism
Plutocracy
Puppet state
Republic
Crowned
Capitalist
Constitutional
Federal
Parliamentary

Federal
Socialist state
Sociocracy
Technocracy
Cyberocracy
Netocracy
Theocracy
Theodemocracy
Timocracy
Totalitarianism
Tribal
Chiefdom

 

source

 

 Can you name one??  Most communist countries are also corrupt...........

46.       lady in red
6947 posts
 16 Apr 2009 Thu 12:53 am

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Can you name one??  Most communist countries are also corrupt...........

 

 .....but being corrupt doesn´t stop them being democratic does it?

47.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Apr 2009 Thu 01:05 am

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Can you name one??  Most communist countries are also corrupt...........

 

 Off  hand, no.  Hypothetically they can.   I saddly report, I think most "actual" governments are corrupt.  You know the saying by John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton:  "Power Corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

48.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 Apr 2009 Thu 03:17 pm

I don´t know a communistic country that would also be democratic. Communism as practised in Eastern europe was dreadful. The idea of getting rid of social classes and making everything everybody´s possession might not have been that bad in theory but in practice it resulted in catastrophe. If everything belongs to everyone then it belongs to no one. Vandalism, laziness and not caring stemed from it. Everybody had to work. It seems not a bad idea but...no matter how badly you worked you wouldn´t get fired. Hence a saying "Whether you´re standing or lying down, you´re entitled to the dough"

 

Communistic economy resulted in empty shops with vinegar on shelves only. To buy food you had to spend half of your day in a queue, food was rationalised and you needed vouchers. I´d see oranges (Cuban ones) only at Christmas, sanitary things like cotton wool or toilet paper were a luxury. To by a Russian colour tv you had to spend 3 days in a queue. Fun, right?

 

And that´s just an average citizen life, if you were a person who cannot keep silent about not having the right of freedom of speech, you´d be arrested, tortured and imprisoned. Workers´ protests were "pacified" with guns. Many people lost their lives to free our country. Ordinary people, shipyard workers, miners, factory workers...I´m glad they did as now I can enjoy freedom. Communism? Never again!

49.       libralady
5152 posts
 16 Apr 2009 Thu 08:04 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

 .....but being corrupt doesn´t stop them being democratic does it?

 

 Bit too quick posting........... I don´t know of one communist country that is democratic, otherwise they would not be communist!

 

50.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Apr 2009 Thu 11:06 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I don´t know a communistic country that would also be democratic. Communism as practised in Eastern europe was dreadful. The idea of getting rid of social classes and making everything everybody´s possession might not have been that bad in theory but in practice it resulted in catastrophe. If everything belongs to everyone then it belongs to no one. Vandalism, laziness and not caring stemed from it. Everybody had to work. It seems not a bad idea but...no matter how badly you worked you wouldn´t get fired. Hence a saying "Whether you´re standing or lying down, you´re entitled to the dough"

 

Communistic economy resulted in empty shops with vinegar on shelves only. To buy food you had to spend half of your day in a queue, food was rationalised and you needed vouchers. I´d see oranges (Cuban ones) only at Christmas, sanitary things like cotton wool or toilet paper were a luxury. To by a Russian colour tv you had to spend 3 days in a queue. Fun, right?

 

And that´s just an average citizen life, if you were a person who cannot keep silent about not having the right of freedom of speech, you´d be arrested, tortured and imprisoned. Workers´ protests were "pacified" with guns. Many people lost their lives to free our country. Ordinary people, shipyard workers, miners, factory workers...I´m glad they did as now I can enjoy freedom. Communism? Never again!

 

 Yes, I know DD. I´m just talking about the abstract ideal of "communism" Angel   It´s a system that I don´t think would ever work other than in a community of Saints.  Even then, people need to get credit for their efforts.  Some do more, some do as little as they can.  If they do more, or better, I think they should be rewarded for it.

 

I do think we have very unfair exploitation process via who has the most capital to capitalize on...and they get more capital....and on it goes.  I don´t know what the perfect system is, but where those with wealth compound it generation after generation, not based on any inherent value they add, but just based on the fact that they have it and others don´t isn´t great either.  When I see the saleries some of the Financial people got, and the public bailout funds they got...AIG, Goldman Sachs....) and what a mess

they made, it makes me see red. I will get you 

 

What you mention about lack of freedom of speech and all, really has nothing to do with the ideal of communism.  Ideally if things are shared, everyone would have an equal voice...no? 

 

 

 

If I make a better mouse trap, why shouldn´t I benefit? On the other hand, there are entities who only capitalize on the efforts of someone long dead making benefit off their inventions, and they have not invented anything, they just exploit. 

 

The Capitalist system leaves a bad taste too. To often the poor get poorer....common resources are privitized....even water.  I can´t believe they are privitizing water.

 

Vandana Shiva has something to say about it

 

I had a dance company once and was concerned how to equitably share profits.  It was hard, but I figured giving the members shares based on the amount they put into the project was the best way.  Some only got one share, others got two or three shares. I got the most shares, but I put in the most work....and $$$.

 

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