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10.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:39 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

While I don´t want to label the person who started this thread (since I can´t understand what he really means) but what he wrote calls to mind a few thoughts not necessarily relevant to this person.

 

There are indeed a few schools of thought in Turkey producing millions of pre-formatted minds capable of only producing one sort of mentalily. These people have a problem with Western values although they have no problem enjoying the positive aspects of it.  With their minds narrowed down to running around  a few iron-clad cliches they are quick to answer criticisim and stay afloat no matter how deep the quagmire of their ignorance is.  Anyone only  capable of producing a colored thought bearing the signatures of a certain subculture  or a certain restrictive ideology at the expense of reason and universal truth  is nothing more than a miserable person.

 

You can use many arguments to blame the West today. The most striking examples being the newly revealed evidence of large scale torture in Guantanamo and two other US camps. You could point out to the crimes committed by the Bush administration. You could recall what Kennedy said about secret organizations within society and use these as excuses to position yourself as an enemy of the West. 

 

At the end of the day, there are so many bad things about the West but essentially, there are a lot more good things that came from it.  Our own culture is a product of the thousands of years of interaction between both West and East. 

 

I see nothing wrong in having an idea different from all others´. This is actually a sign of a creative mind. I sometimes wish all those Armenians and Greeks to visit Turkey once in a while. This way, I believe many of the stereotypes about Turkey will be shattered. I also wish a greater number of Turkish people could freely travel around the world which will help them broaden their visions.

 

Last but not least, we don´t need enemies, we need friends...

 

 by the way, how will you labe me? what will be my label? you can label me as enemy of PKK.

11.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:39 pm

I guess the way this topic goes now is slightly against the rules......

12.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:40 pm

I´m not sure what the original post has to do with the west.  I guess I took it to mean that you don´t belong here if you support the PKK a terrorist organization.   If I remember correctly most countries have skeltons in their closets including Turkey.  What if I was Armenian and wanted restitution, would I also be unwelcomed here?  I think I already know the answer..

13.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:42 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 I just highlighted a few sentences I agree completely. I hope too Turkish people can travel more like others can, not only to broaden their views but also - like many westerners do - for fun. And vineyards, let´s start critisizing......

  I bet I have  been to more countries than you have been...we can critisize turkey, this is ok.. but we can not say PKK should kill turkish.do you say that? if it is your critisizing??? that kind of people should be away of TUrkey..

 

14.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:43 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

I´m not sure what the original post has to do with the west.  I guess I took it to mean that you don´t belong here if you support the PKK a terrorist organization.   If I remember correctly most countries have skeltons in their closets including Turkey.  What if I was Armenian and wanted restitution, would I also be unwelcomed here?  I think I already know the answer..

 

  No matter if you are Armenian,american,german..important is : do you want  turkish people killed?do you know the answer?

15.       oscarray
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 28 May 2009 Thu 08:46 pm

 

Quoting silence

 

 

and i highlighted the words i agree..

 

http://www.nuveforum.net/939-siyaset-gundem/43870-pkknin-gercek-yuzu/

16.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:49 pm

 

Quoting oscarray

 

 

  No matter if you are Armenian,american,german..important is : do you want  turkish people killed?do you know the answer?

 

 I think everyone has a right to defend themselves.  However, with that being said I wish no harm to anyone based on their ethnic origin.  For the record, I do not support any terrorists organization.

17.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:53 pm

 

Quoting oscarray

 

  I bet I have  been to more countries than you have been...we can critisize turkey, this is ok.. but we can not say PKK should kill turkish.do you say that? if it is your critisizing??? that kind of people should be away of TUrkey..

 

 

Silly question. No one should kill another person. (BTW, you make me curious about that number of visited countries...   )

18.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:55 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 I think everyone has a right to defend themselves.  However, with that being said I wish no harm to anyone based on their ethnic origin.  For the record, I do not support any terrorists organization.

 http://www.nuveforum.net/939-siyaset-gundem/43870-pkknin-gercek-yuzu/

 I am against to people who is in that site and telling ´´Turkey is my dream, I love so much´´ but doesnt accept PKK as terrorist group.

Everybody welcomes to Turkey who doesnt want to kill people lives in Turkey

 

19.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:57 pm

http://www.nuveforum.net/939-siyaset-gundem/43870-pkknin-gercek-yuzu/

who would like to killer of babies? If we love turkey, we should accept PKK as terrorist, as accepted offically by all of the countries..

What is LOVING TURKEY?IF WE DONT ACCEPT IT..

20.       lady in red
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 28 May 2009 Thu 08:58 pm

 

Quoting oscarray

 

 

   you are 100% did not understand the subject. http://www.nuveforum.net/939-siyaset-gundem/43870-pkknin-gercek-yuzu/ look that pictures and tell me if you do you love turkey or not ?????

 Tell me, should anyone join to this site if he/she thinks PKK is a good  group ? do you need to be a turk to call PKK as terrorist group ? does anyone have the right to kill people?

 

 Have you read the Site Terms and Conditions (Forum Rules)?  Here are Rules 13 and 14

 

13. Posts supporting/sympathising with PKK or any other terrorist organization are forbidden. Such posts and their owners may be deleted from the site.

14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.

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The subject of various members complaining about other members allegedly ´supporting´ PKK because of their lack of complete condemnation has come up in many different threads over the past two years since you joined but you have never  commented before.  I´m wondering what your agenda is in trying to stir up feelings yet again?  Personally I don´t support PKK any more than I supported the IRA when they were bombing our cities and killing women and children but if I did I certainly wouldn´t get into an argument about it on a public forum.  What I would like to do is to offer my sincere condolences to the families of the 6 soldiers killed by a remote-controlled mine blast which hit a military vehicle in Hakkari on Wednesday night.

 

 

 

 



Edited (5/28/2009) by lady in red

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