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Denial versus freedom of speech
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60.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:23 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Tell me, why should YOU in YOUR country mind about MY laws, MY belief and culture or otherwise around? In your country you are free to say what you wish according to your laws and if I feel insulted than that is my problem, not yours. I get the feeling I have to be careful here with what I say and feel because someone in Faraway-istan might get angry or insulted. Sorry, for me it doesn´t work that way.

 

 My dear, so

When you are standing at your balcony, watching/ hearing your neighbours pointing at you, laughing, making funny drawing, insulting you and then publish it on your entrance

You would consider it freedom of speech andyou should mind your own business ?!

Sorry, for us it doesnt work that way either !

Ýt is OUR religion and they published it not only at the entrance !



Edited (6/1/2009) by CANLI

61.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:25 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Yes Canli, it is NORMAL in Europe to mock ANY religion. It may seem strange to you, but that is how it is. We also know what is going on in YOUR country, even though we live far away from it, and we may not like what you say/do... but we do not go to the Egyptian Embassy and set it on fire because of it. Do you see the similarity?

 

 We do NOT insult other people´s believes/religions/ prophets, ...do you see the None similarity ?!

62.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:31 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 We do NOT insult other people´s believes/religions/ prophets, ...do you see the None similarity ?!

 

 As a matter of fact you do by denying that Jezus was the son of God. That´s the true belief of millions of people and you (general) say he was ´only´ a prophet.

63.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:33 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Sure they can but I still doubt that in dirt-poor villages people care about buying a newspaper instead of bread/rice. An Afghan student of mine told me that in a lot of mountain villages there is no electricity, so no tv as well nor are newspapers widely available. My guess is that politicians and imams took the opportunity to use it for their own goals. Why I think that? Because these cartoons were almost a year old before that imam in Denmark made a fuss about it which caused the uproar.

 

 Actually we heard about it through our embassador when she complained about it.

There were hiden diplomatic efforts to solve that problem before it came to the open, nothing can be hidden forever you know specially when they want to hide it lol

Ýts not a mater of goals, what would be their goals to sabotage the relatioship between Denmark and the Ýslamic world ?!

You still didnt get it, they couldnt skip an eye over it, they would be questioned by whole muslims.

Our prophet SAV were insulted for the sake of insult... the man is already died, he didnt do anything to them, they also not muslims to have any relation with him...so WHY ?!

64.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:36 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

so WHY ?!

 

 Because like Catwoman said in Europe you can mock about everything: family, appearance, politics, president/king/queen, and also religion. ALL religions.

65.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:36 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 As a matter of fact you do by denying that Jezus was the son of God. That´s the true belief of millions of people and you (general) say he was ´only´ a prophet.

 

 Trudy, you make me laugh lol

So i must believe in your religion so i be respectable to it ?!

Sorry...it cant be lol

Beside, you all didnt agree if he is the son of god or he is the god or he is a prophet

As you know you have many believes in that matter...so...which one you think we should not deny ?!



Edited (6/1/2009) by CANLI

66.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:44 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Trudy, you make me laugh lol

So i must believe in your religion so i be respectable to it ?!

Sorry...it cant be lol

Beside, you all didnt agree if he is the son of god or he is the god or he is a prophet

As you know you have many believes in that matter...so...which one you think we should not deny ?!

 

What´s the difference? Why should I believe in your prophet? I don´t and I can mock about non-existing persons / things.

 

(About your question of not agreeing: read some more about the various sorts of Christianity and you´ll see for a large number of people he was the son of God. Don´t mistake it by the Trinity of God, Son and Holy Spirit. That´s something different but I don´t want to explain here & now, way to long and I´m not a teacher of religious topics.)

67.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:46 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 We do NOT insult other people´s believes/religions/ prophets, ...do you see the None similarity ?!

 

Canli, you do insult/mock us. You do say bad/hateful things about us... on some of them you are right on some you are wrong. We are also right on some of the things we say about you guys and wrong about some other... We do have the freedom to mock what we want when we are in our country/home...

 

I think that you just don´t want to accept that you do something wrong..

68.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:47 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Because like Catwoman said in Europe you can mock about everything: family, appearance, politics, president/king/queen, and also religion. ALL religions.

 

 Acknowledging that Europe is not the only continent in the world, and Europeans also not the only people living on Earth, and they are not the Earth rulers too

And Christians are not only believers who live there

So... by any way, why would us accept that ?!!!

 

 

According To CIA World Factbook Major Religion percentages – Christians: 33.32%, Muslims: 21.01%, Hindus: 13.26%, Buddhists: 5.84%

69.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:47 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 As a matter of fact you do by denying that Jezus was the son of God. That´s the true belief of millions of people and you (general) say he was ´only´ a prophet.

 

 Ummm....Trudy.....I must say I´m amazed you are bringing this into this discussion....but FYI....that is called having different religions.....

70.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:50 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

What´s the difference? Why should I believe in your prophet? I don´t and I can mock about non-existing persons / things.

 

Yes, you can and you do...but don´t expect doors to be opened for you when you take this attitude. 

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