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160.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 01:14 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I don´t believe that he´s a Türk. Why would a Türk constantly feed anti-Turkish content here? He´s here on a mission (read his posts/columns and one will get the idea of what that mission is). He constantly talks about evil Turks doing bad things to (angel) Kurds. I haven´t heard anything bad about Kurds in his posts. Does he really think Kurds are angels or something?

 

He talks about the 1915 events but he is always pro-Armenian as you can expect. He talks as if Turks were the only ones to be blamed and Armenians were angels. There must some faults of Armenians right? But he never talks about them. I wonder why? Why to always blame Turks?

 

I deny that anything I post here anti Turkish.. You can not prove that at all..

But I can clearly say that "they are anti-racist" 

In fact, I believe, you are quite anti Turkish according to my view. I mean with all these ignorance about these subjects/ acting guilty as if you are trying to cover up something. I am feeling  embarrassed most of the time to be honest to argue with you guys because you are suddenly posting something to give the impression that ´all Turks are like you; all Turks are agitated easily; all Turks are trying to hide something because of the way they are objecting´. 

I really believe that you are portraying a Turkish image here as ´argumentative; racist like nationalists; fear to talk about its history etc´..

That is quite wrong!!


161.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 01:17 pm

 

Quoting metehan2001

 

 Dear vineyard, you have written something against thehandsom´s view, but the answer has come from gezegen? As an old user here, maybe you can explain, what is the relation between these two users. Are they the members of an organized group in this site? Whenever somebody criticizes one of them, the other one interferes into the  discussion and always supports him. Have you ever seen them as defending a different view on a peculiar subject?

 

 

You are simply wrong.. I am not gezegen or he is not me..

You are day dreaming about the ´secret organization´..

I think it is hallucination!! lol

162.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 01:36 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I deny that anything I post here anti Turkish.. You can not prove that at all..

But I can clearly say that "they are anti-racist" 

In fact, I believe, you are quite anti Turkish according to my view. I mean with all these ignorance about these subjects/ acting guilty as if you are trying to cover up something. I am feeling  embarrassed most of the time to be honest to argue with you guys because you are suddenly posting something to give the impression that ´all Turks are like you; all Turks are agitated easily; all Turks are trying to hide something because of the way they are objecting´. 

I really believe that you are portraying a Turkish image here as ´argumentative; racist like nationalists; fear to talk about its history etc´..

That is quite wrong!!


 

You always talks what Turks did to Armenians but you never talked what Armenians did to muslims (they were mostly Kurdish by the way. the area where those conflicts happened is populated by Kurds now and then). The Armenians must have done some wrong things, right? I never saw you talk about it. You only talk what Turks did wrong to Armenians.

 

One time you wanted to respresent Murat Bardakçı´s mentioning 900000 people relocated in 1915 as number of people killed and you were very excited about that number. Why would a Türk do something like that? You were sounded as if you would be the more happy with the more number of killed people.

163.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 01:59 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

You always talks what Turks did to Armenians but you never talked what Armenians did to muslims (they were mostly Kurdish by the way. the area where those conflicts happened is populated by Kurds now and then). The Armenians must have done some wrong things, right? I never saw you talk about it. You only talk what Turks did wrong to Armenians.

 

One time you wanted to respresent Murat Bardakçı´s mentioning 900000 people relocated in 1915 as number of people killed and you were very excited about that number. Why would a Türk do something like that? You were sounded as if you would be the more happy with the more number of killed people.

 

I was just going to say if you understand really what I am writing but I remembered you said you never read my posts fully. Well, you should!!

Look at your post..

First you are saying ´yes -SOMETHING- happened to Armenians but it was not us. It was Kurds´ (years ago, the argument was ´it never happened´, now, ´yes something happened but they did too, or they deserved´

The second thing is you are putting everything into wrong date orders.. (that is the reason why I am trying to be quite careful with the dates here). Most of the incident/massacres Armenians committed can NOT be the reason for 1915 events because the main Armenian massacres  were just after 1915.

 

I would not open Murat Bardakci incident if I was you..

Before him, you were presenting the documents from Turkish Army to show that all Armenians subjected to Techir was around 400.000.. All your thesis was based on that value..

He suddenly came up and said that ´the army was not revealing all the numbers´. So the number was around 1.000.000.. I dont think it would make any difference to me if it was 1.000.000 or 400.000..I already knew that 400.000 was NOT true..

I was not the person who believed it was true..

It was you..was it not? lol 

Did you feel betrayed by the army? I mean come one..You must have felt that.. It is like you defend something like ´they are all lies..how it is possible 600.000 deaths where the total number is 400.000´ and suddenly you are learning that ´you WERE WRONG´ 

 

 

 

 

 

164.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 02:22 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I was just going to say if you understand really what I am writing but I remembered you said you never read my posts fully. Well, you should!!

Look at your post..

First you are saying ´yes -SOMETHING- happened to Armenians but it was not us. It was Kurds´ (years ago, the argument was ´it never happened´, now, ´yes something happened but they did too, or they deserved´

The second thing is you are putting everything into wrong date orders.. (that is the reason why I am trying to be quite careful with the dates here). Most of the incident/massacres Armenians committed can NOT be the reason for 1915 events because the main Armenian massacres  were just after 1915.

 

I would not open Murat Bardakci incident if I was you..

Before him, you were presenting the documents from Turkish Army to show that all Armenians subjected to Techir was around 400.000.. All your thesis was based on that value..

He suddenly came up and said that ´the army was not revealing all the numbers´. So the number was around 1.000.000.. I dont think it would make any difference to me if it was 1.000.000 or 400.000..I already knew that 400.000 was NOT true..

I was not the person who believed it was true..

It was you..was it not? lol 

Did you feel betrayed by the army? I mean come one..You must have felt that.. It is like you defend something like ´they are all lies..how it is possible 600.000 deaths where the total number is 400.000´ and suddenly you are learning that ´you WERE WRONG´ 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don´t want to get into number of deaths again with you. You may not believe 400000 but why did you sound so excited as if 900000 were the number of killed people? Why does it make you happy?

 

Here´s what Bardakçı says:

The collapse of the Ottoman Empire was bloody, the Turkish argument goes, and those who died were victims of that chaos.

Bardakci subscribes to that view. The figures, he said, do not indicate the number of dead, only the result of the decline in the Armenian population after deportation. He strongly disagrees that the massacres amounted to a genocide, and says that Turkey was obliged to take action against Armenians because they were openly supporting Russia in its war against the Ottoman Empire.

Quoted from: here

165.       scalpel
1472 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 04:57 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I don´t believe that he´s a Türk. Why would a Türk constantly feed anti-Turkish content here? He´s here on a mission (read his posts/columns and one will get the idea of what that mission is). He constantly talks about evil Turks doing bad things to (angel) Kurds. I haven´t heard anything bad about Kurds in his posts. Does he really think Kurds are angels or something?

 

He talks about the 1915 events but he is always pro-Armenian as you can expect. He talks as if Turks were the only ones to be blamed and Armenians were angels. There must some faults of Armenians right? But he never talks about them. I wonder why? Why to always blame Turks?

 

 

 No, he is not Türk but pretend to be. This is his tactic for fooling people. I think every time he says he is Turk he feels dirty and takes a shower to comfort himself.{#emotions_dlg.lol}  Don´t waste too much water, handsome, be open and honest to us. Wink Come on, boyo, you can do this...we are not monsters to eat you.{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

 

166.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 10:13 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

 

 No, he is not Türk but pretend to be. This is his tactic for fooling people. I think every time he says he is Turk he feels dirty and takes a shower to comfort himself.{#emotions_dlg.lol}  Don´t waste too much water, handsome, be open and honest to us. Wink Come on, boyo, you can do this...we are not monsters to eat you.{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

 

 

What a charming post from a ´wanna be a racist´ person.
Not that easy!! You have to earn that label ..
And you need to lower yourself more by avoiding posting about the topic and tell us more about why a person should be a non Turk if he/she likes digging into subjects and not a fraid to be critical. And apart from praying everyday for Kenan Evren, who  created you lot as a monotype, well behaved, non critical, sheep like  generation of Turkey, you have to work harder like the others: Say something like I must be a Kurd or an Armenian..

Come on..you can do better..I am sure your potential is dying to come out!! Show us more what you are made of..

167.       si++
3785 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 10:27 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

 

 No, he is not Türk but pretend to be. This is his tactic for fooling people. I think every time he says he is Turk he feels dirty and takes a shower to comfort himself.{#emotions_dlg.lol}  Don´t waste too much water, handsome, be open and honest to us. Wink Come on, boyo, you can do this...we are not monsters to eat you.{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

 

 

He´s annoying us all here repeating the same things all the time. He´s obsessed with the same things all the time. It´s just boring.

168.       scalpel
1472 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 10:43 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

What a charming post from a ´wanna be a racist´ person.
Not that easy!! You have to earn that label ..
And you need to lower yourself more by avoiding posting about the topic and tell us more about why a person should be a non Turk if he/she likes digging into subjects and not a fraid to be critical. And apart from praying everyday for Kenan Evren, who  created you lot as a monotype, well behaved, non critical, sheep like  generation of Turkey, you have to work harder like the others: Say something like I must be a Kurd or an Armenian..

Come on..you can do better..I am sure your potential is dying to come out!! Show us more what you are made of..

 

Just to make you happy,yes, you must be Armenian...If I were Armenian, I would be proud of my origin, but you are simply not...By the way, what makes you think that you are the only digger here?..{#emotions_dlg.lol} You are funny,boy..I guess your history knowledge is too short, but yet you pretend to be an historian. As for Kenan Evren, he is the clumsiest painter I have ever come across.{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}  

169.       scalpel
1472 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 10:51 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

He´s annoying us all here repeating the same things all the time. He´s obsessed with the same things all the time. It´s just boring.

 

lol, He is probably one of those parrot like people who speak what they hear.

170.       si++
3785 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 11:01 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

Just to make you happy,yes, you must be Armenian...If I were Armenian, I would be proud of my origin, but you are simply not...By the way, what makes you think that you are the only digger here?..{#emotions_dlg.lol} You are funny,boy..I guess your history knowledge is too short, but yet you pretend to be an historian. As for Kenan Evren, he is the clumsiest painter I have ever come across.{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}  

 

Oh boy. I know you are tempted to make him happy by saying it, but let´s just be more politically correct. Everybody should have known by now what he is or is not. Leave it to their imagination.

 



Edited (6/10/2010) by si++

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