Erotic scenes on Turkish TV, right or wrong?

Turks are used to watching erotic scenes in foreign TV series. But when Turkish actors appear in erotic scenes in popular, prime-time Turkish series, the question of whether they harm Turkish family values and should be encrypted is launching a new debate. After five minutes of kissing earned one television channel a warning from the industry watchdog and prompted a state minister to suggest encrypting scenes of questionable mores, debate has erupted over the appropriate length of romantic encounters on Turkish TV. This debate, however, is only a small part of a much larger discussion ongoing in society over popular TV series that stand accused of harming Turkish family values. "But what exactly are Turkish family values?" ask some experts. The Supreme Board of Radio and Television, or RTÜK, found the five-minute scene “too provocative” and sent a warning to private television channel Kanal D a few months ago.

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Hakký Devrim, a columnist from daily Radikal, said there are norms that define families in each culture, adding that in Turkey the family is the center of society. He said the characters in series like Aþk-ý Memnu are not good examples, even if they are a reality in society. However, he added that violence and harmful relations between family members are more dangerous than eroticism. “In a recent series, a man beat his wife and daughter and this scene was shown for many minutes. What’s the use of watching such long and violent scenes?” said Devrim.

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Sure, seeing a couple kissing is harmful for family values, but seeing a man beating is wife is not? How hypocrite.

Yes, I noticed that there is too much drama and violence in turkish tv series and that´s why I hate them.

I think the debate started after these scenes from the TV serial "Aþk-ý Memnu". (BTW it´s one of my favourite soap operas and it´s an highly sensual story, without these scenes it would be very incomplete).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_VWvdaFPDM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4-vmZ5Ox8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09lC8gjjU-M

Once RTÜK warned a tv channel because in scene a guy holding a bottle of beer in his hands . Seems eroticism is a big crime, in fact i want all turkish series to be banned, i cannot watch tv because of them . Anyway this is simply akepe style, i wont be surprised in future if they try to censor the scenes which girl & boy holding eachother´s hand ... 

I agree with Hakký Devrim that they should pay attention to the violence that is shown in tv show in Turkey. I have seen a lot of women getting smacked around in tv shows, and I think that´s a bigger problem in Turkey at the moment then people kissing or being ´erotic´.

I wonder why the issue is with how long the scene is....seems kind of silly to say OK you can kiss but just for 10 seconds (or whatever).  Personally, I don´t see the harm in showing affection between people, but even here in the states, I have to say that some shows go way too far BUT I just don´t watch those shows.  I prefer that it is my choice to watch or not to watch.

erotism and violence,that both in the human nature,and that both sound a bit exciting.But main problem is the shamless producers,because they choise to easy things which speaking to human´s  devilish desires.So i believe authorites must be more carefull about publishers,for keep in safe young generations by taking attention social &cultural sensitivities...

 So you believe in censorhip MrX?  Here in the US censorship is a very controversial subject.  I think people should make up their own mind what they want to watch.  As far as young people, I have certain channels blocked on my TV because I have kids in the house.  I think most adults are capable of censoring thier own lives.

I wonder why the posts in this thread being deleted!!!

Is someone going to say something or leaving everything to our imagination ´again´?

 Anything wrong with your imagination?

Not at all!

And it is not my fault that ´things are left to our imaginations´ here..

You guys  could have given a few lines of explanation at least..

 Nope. Than we have more fun reading your guessed ideas.

Ha ha

I will call this encouragement for gossiping!!

Well since you mods delete and do not give any explanation we have only one way but to speculate..

It´s tolerated when there are one or two off topic messages but when the messages are exchanged like in a chatting, we are far from the main topic.Then the ones that are really interested to read the opinions about the topic are lost in tens of off topic messages.

I think the topic is worth being discussed. "Eroticism on Turkish Channels", "Erotic scenes in popular turkish TV serials"...

I hope you are telling the Truth Mltm..

If you check the thread:

http://turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43582

It has been off the topic for a long time for example..

 Yes i do believe in censor when needed Elisabeth,and i do believe in all freedoms has the limits.And i think you belive censor with ur way to by blocking some chanelles  for keep in safe ur kids.Just one difference censor´s limits can change culture by culture or country by country but by never give a harm self of the freedoms...

It´s just my opinion, but I believe that it is more harmful to culture to censor and restrict people´s freedom.  Holding on to old ways of thinking is not holding on to culture....culture should reflect the wants, needs and lifestyles of the people of a given area.  Culture is not static or constant.  It changes with the times.  Obviously, a certain segment of the population in Turkey wants to see lots of kissing!

What do you mean? Why wouldn´t I tell the truth?

I do not and cannot check every thread ofcourse.

And in the translation threads, the offtopic discussions are far less disturbing as they are not meant to discuss a topic but answer a particular demand.

 yes as you said cultures never static,but main ethical rules always,from deep of history till to endAll olds not to bad,even some of em fresh and younger then the many youngs

 Well, I think my understanding of what is ethical is very different than anyone elses.  It is shaped by my own personal beliefs and experiences.  Ethics is very subjective and can´t be used as a measure for what people should or should not be watching. 

Anyway, MrX, I respect what you are saying....just completely disagree with it.

I agree with Elisabeth here.

I also think what is ethical for me should be more than ethical for others.....Full stop.

sure noone of us never deny about subjectivity of ethical rules,but i think noone of us musn´t deny limits of freedoms to??And yes in private life noone of us don´t have any right about judging another one´s ethical values,but if topic related with social life and related with the all society and if its related with social order and benefits we have to think again and again....