Who Says Ataturk Was a Dictator?

I say dictators and fascists themselves. Indeed this piece of crap from the kurdishmedia.com proves it nicely. Here you will read the heart-touching grievance of a Kurdish fascist to his boss America.

Keep in mind that, this is not a blog entry, but a column from an online news site. That will give you a rough idea about what these racist fascist liar scums are.

For the sake of clarity, I highlighted the most obvious and funny lies in the text.

http://www.kurdmedia.com/article.aspx?id=15742

The Turkish regime is well known by the world for committing crimes against the Kurds, the Armenians, Greeks and the other minority groups. Millions of people murdered and genocide by the former Turkish dictator Kamal Ataturk for instance in 1915. Then, since all the Turkish states in the past and current shamelessly tried to commit the same action of crime against the Kurds and the other nationalities in Anatolia. After the collapse of the former Soviet Union in 1991, many nationalities like Kurds hoped that one day they will be freed from their oppressors. I personally believe that the USA will lead the world and everybody will enjoy the freedom and democracy. Even the former USA President Gorge W Bush, stated before the collapse of the former executed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, that he will deliver democracy to the darkest corner in the world. The darkest corner in the World is Kurdistan. The Kurdish rights have always been denied by the oppressors of Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Iraq for centuries. Since the occupation of Muslims 13 centuries ago our rights were jeopardised, and we are still without a state. As Gerald and other authors believe in democracy and the freedom of other nationalities, Gerald mentioned lately in his article that Kurdistan is like another Israel in the eyes of the Arab countries, he is quite right, always has been this way and Kurds have been blamed that we are the agents of Israel and America. If this is the case, why did the Israeli planes lately participate with the Turkish war planes to bombard the Kurdish villages in 16th December 2007, in Iraqi Kurdistan? Is not it shame on the Israeli Government to take an awful action to help the Barbarian State of Turkey against the defenceless Kurdish villagers in Kurdistan? Did the Israeli Government ask itself, that why have they done that against the Kurds? Have the Kurdish people or any political parties in the past or now hurt any Israeli solder? Or have any terrorist activities been committed by the Kurds against the state of Israel. If the answer is no, so why the Israeli Government participated in this crime? They did not ask the Turkish Government to grant more rights to the Kurds. Kurdish people believe that they are more close to the Jewish people than any other nationality in the Middle East. Kurds and Jewish people were genocide by the Arab Muslims in the past during Mohammed up until now. The suicide Muslim Arab bombers in Israel and in Kurdistan are still murdering innocent people as they did 13 centuries ago. This scenario from one hand and there is another amazing scenario from the other hand.

The "blog" is indeed nonsense - the writer seems to be confusing the word "tyrant" with "dictator".  HOWEVER....

If you look at the definition of "dictator":- 

A dictator is a ruler (e.g. absolutist or autocratic) who assumes sole and absolute power with military control but, without hereditary ascension such as an absolute monarch.The word originated as the title of a magistrate in ancient Rome appointed by the Senate to rule the republic in times of emergency (see Roman dictator and justitium).^[2]In modern usage, the term "dictator" is generally used to describe a leader who holds and/or abuses an extraordinary amount of personal power, especially the power to make laws without effective restraint by a legislative assembly. Dictatorships are often characterized by some of the following traits: suspension of elections and of civil liberties; proclamation of a state of emergency; rule by decree; repression of political opponents without abiding by rule of law procedures; these include single-party state, and cult of personality.

Then draw your own conclusions....

I think I clearly indicated that it`s not a blog site but an online news site, and the fascist clown is a "columnist".

it`s interesting that the only thing you picked as wrong from the text is the definition of dictator. so eveything else in it is true?

hmmm according to this definition Saddam was not a dictator as he held elections although the only candidate in the elections was himself. Guess what. George Washington didn`t have any opponents when he was "elected" into the presidency either. So who is dictator and who is not?

Well - as I said, draw your own conclusions!  You cannot take single points from the definition, but must judge on the majority of points

By the way, if you want to see a real life fascist dictator in today`s world, you can look at the pseudo Kurdistan who is ran by a primitive tribe leader called Borazani.

 It is really no "defence" to start listing dictators!

hmmmm so that confirms that you agree with everything else in the text.

no it`s all about hypocrisy versus being consistent.

 I was talking about the text that I posted on the definition of a dictator

Pay attention!

 The title of the thread was not "let´s make a list of dictators" I believe - the question was regarding Ataturk

and you pay attention to this

I`m showing you what else those who call Ataturk a dictator say, who they are, and what`s behind propaganda.

It is clear that the piece you posted was propaganda, I do not need you to "show me" that!  However, as I said, with regard to Ataturk being defined as a "dictator", they may well have a point, if you read the definition of "dictator" I posted above.

I am not saying he was a bad dictator - he may well have been a good dictator, but it is clear to me that he CAN be described as one

from the definition you sent, it`s obvious that George Washington was a dictator, and he wasn`t even a good dictator but one who genocided tens of thousands of Native Americans and who personally had Black slaves.

 It is true that George Washington can be deemed responsible for the genocide of tens of thousands of Native Americans and he personally had slaves.  However, I am interested to know what, from the definition, makes him a "dictator".  Interesting theory though, if true

However, it does not take away from the fact that Ataturk was a dictator!

as I said If you call Saddam a dictator like what all the christians does to defend the genocide in Iraq, then by the same criteria George Washington was a dictator too because he didn`t come to power with a legitimate election.

on the other hand, Ataturk let the opposition form their own party in his life time. which other dictator did that?

Ahh ok well you are basing all this on just one point -whether or not they are in power from legitimate election?  In that case, yes ALL THREE are dictators!

wow, finally I made you say George washington was a dictator! am I not always right?  what`s the point of opposing?

 WOw and I finally made you agree that Ataturk was a dictator?   Am I not always right?  What is the point of opposing - especially as I have no loyalities to the US

no that`s what you`ve always said based on the Kurdish propaganda you`re exposed to, but I also made you say George Washington was a dictator. I`m glad you`ve started to see the light. don`t worry, when you are fully enlightened you will drop the notion that Ataturk was a dictator.

Yes it is my aim to become as brainwashed enlightened as you!

hahaha yeah, from the text I posted isn`t it very obvious what`s brainwashing propaganda and what`s not.

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