thanks there are such kınd of trouble real stories around sea side places please be careful my friends when you are visiting a country

Is the name of that disco known?

Couldn´t find it. I bought the paper that had the scoop (although I usually HATE this paper) and couldn´t find a name in it. If you go to the website you can press on the picture for a bigger pic in a pop-up window.

wow I am surprised !!.I did actually expect it to be in Lara or in the centre but nope he picked the beach park.

From the photo I can tell that the disco is along the Beach Park of  Konyaaltı beach.  The Sheraton Voyager Hotel is set at the far end of the beach and is a very visable landmark, I used to live just up the road from it  

The beach has bars and cafes set all along it so I am not sure the name of this one but it looks like it is about a third of the way down the 5km beach as the hotel end is still visable.

Ewww....how disgusting!!!  I wonder if it´s actually gotten more dangerous, or are we hearing about things like this more?

Thank you for the warning barba....ewww....this makes me so angry!  Makes me want to turn into Wonder Woman, or some such....you what???? click those bracelets and....

omg those things DO multiply  that woman had to be uncoscious while concieving it 

When are governments going to learn?   It doesn´t pay to show compassion to KNOWN criminals!  Our governments are paid to keep us safe from such animals yet they consistantly fail to do their duty!  This kind of crap happens all the time in the US.  I am not saying we should mistreat people who are in prison...but for pity sake...if they are in prison, KEEP THEM THERE!!

 I completely agree with you, these news make my blood boil, I absolutely hate that stupid political correctness and softness in the justice system, as example in Spain this is a serious issue with dangerous criminals like rapists who get out quick because some stupid "progressive" and "mindful of human rights" laws make sure they get all sorts of idiot benefits.

I have always mantained that justice should be as fair and transparent as possible, but people have to fear it, someone guilty of such brutal crimes has NO right to leave prison to see his baby, in fact, I´d deny him paternity rights over the baby, and keep him locked forever, which is far more severe a punishment than the death penalty (which I don´t really support).

He only received 7, 5 years... which is nothing. I hope Turkey can also send him to prison, and for longer. Turkish prison is a better punishment than Dutch prison.

Testosterone is a wonderful organic compound. Thick, broad skeleton, strong muscles, faster metabolism, aggressiveness are all its gifts to man. However (and as a result) it´s what makes males able to overpower females in case of beating and rape. This physical advantage is dangerous in the hands of some people like this and should be taken from them = castration

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 I don´t know about the whole testosterone thing...but I do agree with castration!

Or some hanging.... and not the rope around his neck! 

Castration, hanging.. all sound like good options for this sick evil satan.

I really dont understand women who believe in and trust such men, especially in resort areas.

I am sure this man still dating with other women who are not aware of things. I hope ministry of tourism prevents such people that work in these places.

Resort areas have become a hellhole. Drugs, rapes, beatings and especially manwhoring.. When people ask me I tell them (in fact beg them) not go there. These people who survive by exploiting and hurting others are like parasites, as time passes they become more professional and totally devoid of human compassion. It´s like cannibals who enjoy a fine slab of human flesh never understanding how horrible that is, because they simply lack the concept. These people have no salvation, they are lost...

If I were the president or something I would immediately order a napalm strike or carpet bombing on Marmaris, Alanya, Kuşadası and Bodrum. Good riddance for those desperate women and their overtanned swarthy dudus. The world would be such a better place!

oh boy you have never been desperate otherwise you would understand them desperate women need love, and love is known to be blind.

I don´t think it´s about those women being desparate, have you ever seen anything about how women are forced into trafficking/prostitution? It´s enough to go to a club and dance with the wrong person for 5 minutes.

Love? I don´t think there is love or whatsoever involved. Now I am not a resort-dwelling person but I have heard some stories and watched a few of those dudu documentories on British TVs. The only thing I see is some almost teenager guys approaching ladies and telling your eyes are beautiful/ you are sweet etc. Probably followed by a totally meaningles balım/aşkım period of text messages and phone conversations which go down in flames after they can no longer supply the money.

Those women look so sad and desperate they are just trying to dump their emotional baggage on whoever looks at them for more than 5 seconds. This isn´t love, this is desparation incarnate. I don´t hate them, I sympathize with them, I feel sad for them but at the same time I can not respect them and I am angry to see people degrading themselves that much. I don´t know what to feel, in fact I don´t know why the hell I am writing deranged stuff about them in the middle of the night. This whole thing is so disturbing I feel like bashing my head into the monitor and die before I see even more deranged stuff..Oh God humanity is lost...

so go ask those women about it, and they will say they found LOVE, even if it is only for a week of vacation only and if that animal got a child, then how? by raping that woman who gave a birth to the child? i´m not sure he had to rape her...probably the woman thought it is love or smth and yes you are right, humanity is lost, for at least 20-30 years already.

Yeah, of course none of this has anything to do with "love", but (judging by our translation requests) a lot of those women believe there´s love in it.. I think that the problem is in how we raise boys and girls.. we TELL little girls that this is what love is! And we don´t tell them what kind of world boys/men live in and what THEY mean by love..

I didn´t read anyplace that the women he exploited believed in, and trusted him.  He is a human trafficker, plain and simple.  He is a 21st Century Slave Trader.  Who knows how he got these women to comply with his wishes? Have you ever heard of date rape drugs?

I could not read the article, so I don´t know the particulars of this case, but from what it seems, he is a beast. From looking at the photo, he appears to have used a lot of anabolic steroids.

I think Western women have a very naive regarding their vulnerability.  They go out to bars and drink with people they don´t know, put themselves in very dangerous situations.

Human trafficking is a serious problem and it is all over the world....be careful!  I seriously hope Turkish authorities takes some action regarding this animal.

WAT?? 7,5 years? I didn´t know the Netherlands were importing judges from the Spanish Union of Socialist Judges or something like that.

What´s wrong with the justice courts today? Just for multiple (and proved) rape charges that beast should be sentenced to life WITHOUT parole, all his assets should be confiscated by the State, and I would also strip his paternity rights.

I hope he gets 50 years in a Turkish prison, preferrably one stocked with dangerous sexual perverts and sadistic guards.

This guy is not a typical dudu. He doesn´t sell his own body to a well-off woman for "credit" or "money to pay his father´s hospital bill". This guy and his gang targets young, insecure women. He gives them some attention, a bit is enough to get their interest. And then the ´project´ starts... let´s see how sure this woman is of herself?  A woman who has certain self-confidence will see what he is trying to do fast enough, and get out before the violence starts...and it starts fast, believe me. Guys like this work all around the world. How do you think 18 year old girls end up "behind the windows"? Now we have at least one of those guys identified, and we can make sure a LOT of people stay away from him.

This has nothing to do with Marmaris, Kusadasi, Bodrum, etc. This has EVERYTHING to do with the way this guy was brought up. If he had only 1% of respect for women, he would not be able to do this. He sees them as objects, and the poor girls are also being drilled to see themselves as objects, in total state of fear.

We can´t stop this from happening all around the world, but everybody here who sees this guy walking around Turkey will turn around and run very fast, I hope

I didn´t read anything regarding his recruitment process or how he was raised.  The fact of the matter is this man appears to be a psychopath. He could have very nice parents, don´t blame his parents for his actions. Don´t blame the victim, we don´t know how they were recruited. 

Vulnerable women.....children and young men need to be warned about the problem.  It can happen to most anyone given the right conditions. The effects of the dehumanization and demoralizing is a big part of the problem.  His victims are stigmatized by society as "whores", making it even harder for them to live healthy lives.

The time a convict has to do in prison in my country is laughable. Rape? 3 years at most (Officially 12 but that hardly ever happens.) Murder? 7 to 10 years is a lot, maximum is life but there are only 35 inmates who got that verdict since the 70s. 

 Unfortunately, some areas of my country punish people very harshly (death penalty) and other parts punish very mildly (very short prison terms).  What is very scary is that neither punishment style seems to do anything to deter criminal activity.  What can we do as a society?  I don´t really have an answer, but when we do have the criminal locked up, we should do our best to keep it that way for the duration of the sentence.  I am personally tired of having to "show compassion" to criminal animals who show very little compassion for fellow human beings themselves.  This man is a waste of human flesh!

This is unbelievable....

When I read the name of Baran´s lawyer I wasn´t surprised anymore. Gerard Spong, a lawyer who will defend anyone with loads of money no matter what they did (but is not available for criminals without a lot of cash!). He defended Bouterse, president of Surinam, accused of the 1980 December killings. Typical: Spong himself is half-Surinam.... (and Bouterse very loaded).

 Unfortunately, money REALLY is the root of ALL evil! (well, I guess the exception would be psychopaths who do terrible things just to do them!)

 I said the thing about respect for women, because his brother is in business with him. His parents can be very nice yes, but clearly something went wrong if the males in this family think it´s okay to do this to women. They clearly stated in an interview that they felt no regrets. And I´m not blaming the victim, it´s just the typical profile of a "lover-boy" victim. I´m saying we should arm girls. Not with guns, but with a strong sense of self, and street-smarts.

Oh, and the picture of the wedding, isn´t the picture I posted here. If you were wondering if the blond girl on the pic is his wife... nope, the picture he is creating a lawsuit over is with a different woman.

That is what a psychopathic personality is.  We don´t know how many brothers and sisters he has, or anything about his family. We only have information regarding him and his brother.  Did one intimidate the other into these actions?

"Psychopathy      is a personality disorder whose hallmark is a lack of empathy. Researcher Robert Hare, whose Hare Psychopathy Checklist is widely used, describes psychopaths as "intraspecies predators  who use charisma, manipulation, intimidation, sexual intercourse and violence to control others and to satisfy their own needs. Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without guilt or remorse". "What is missing, in other words, are the very qualities that allow a human being to live in social harmony."

Psychopaths are glib and superficially charming, and many psychopaths are excellent mimics of normal human emotion; some psychopaths can blend in, undetected, in a variety of surroundings, including corporate environments. There is neither a cure nor any effective treatment for psychopathy; there are no medications or other techniques which can instill empathy, and psychopaths who undergo traditional talk therapy only become more adept at manipulating others. The consensus among researchers is that psychopathy stems from a specific neurological disorder which is biological in origin and present from birth. It is estimated that one percent of the general population are psychopaths."

source

Society needs to figure out an effective deterrent to psychopathic behaviour....ASAP!

He´s a pimp, it´s as simple as that. What´s the point of analysing whether or not his parents read him the proper bedtime stories. He found a way to make money and feel power. Probably because of these steroids he has problems down there and  boosts his ego this way.

I hope he gets a just sentence and gets raped a few times in prison.

And I have no idea what women drinking in bars have to do with this thing. He forced women int prostitution, probably started with those who already had been on the streets. The girls drinking in bars are usually less naive than those who stay home all the time dreaming of idyllic love. The latter fall for sweet talk more easily, the former know men better

 so do i!!!but looking on his photo,sorry to say,only desperate jailbirds can go for it!!!

as far as I know, it´s not the lloks that count in prisons. Withe their limited resources, inmates use sex to put themselves in the position of power. Just like dogs in a pack, really...the alpha-dog humps other dogs just to show them their place

Let´s hope then that there are a lot of desperate jailbirds! 

well said!

.........actually, girls drinking in bars too often have the dangerous fantasy of invulnerability....the "It Can´t Happen to Me" syndrome,  as do so most young people.  Why else have the young fighting wars in the front lines?

The more sophisticated ladies may know men better....if they last that long.

All I am saying is.....realize there are some very dangerous opportunistic people out there, so take measures to keep yourself safe.

Baran was arrested in Antalya. He was living in his luxury apartment there, thinking he was untouchable. But the Dutch government had talks with the Turkish government. And now the Turkish government found some crimes he commited in Turkey that they could arrest him for. Glad this happened

the guy has a very good name, very describing for his behaviour (stupid and stubborn to try the same thing again)...B-A-R-A-N...Baran...baran...in russian baran is ram or wether  (a male sheep?), so it´s a good name for him 

Seems that in turkish his name means ..rain 

http://www.turkishdictionary.net/?word=baran&submit=Search 

"Baran" is not Turkish, it´s Persian/Kurdish word. It probably should not be considered even as a loan word since it is not used commonly, but as a name only(Not very common as a name amongst Turks either). Use "yağmur" for rain, this too is used as a name.

İ never  intended to use this word..i just found what it means few minutes ago in this site´s dictionary.

I though it was a Kurdish name like rojda, berfin, şeyhmus, şivan etc. Personally I have not met any Turk using this name yet.

As a Dutch woman I know about this topic of Saban B, it is unbelievable how the Dutch justice system is working. As he got ´free time´´ form the judges to see his newborn child... he escaped during his free time to Turkey. The worst thing about this ´Turkish news topics´ is that it causes negative public relations for the general Image of Turkey in Netherlands, as Turkish men have a notorious reputation in Netherlands as big womanizer and unfaithfull ones. Unfortunately this Saban creature is emphasing the image even more. If you look at his face you can see clearly that this guy has no scruples and no faith, he is a monster, I don´t understand the Dutch woman he got married with she must be mentally sick! Let´s hope he will be in Turkish prison for the rest of his life!

Yaeh but I guess you never know.. Back several years ago when there were a lot of "aşiret" serials on tv I remember there were characters with this name, that´s when I first heard it. Some people might have been influenced and named their child "Baran". My concern is, why "Baran" when there is "Yağmur"? This is very sneaky and dangerous cultural reconstruction we are being put through :S

Yeah but they were not interesting to watch for me. That doesn´t mean that I know some of those charcaters though.

Also in the movie titled "Eşkiya" there was a "Baran ağa" acted by Şener Şen.

...Okay, let´s talk more about rain... Or, we could get some info perhaps of our Turkish friends here who might get a bit more insight into what he´s charged with? I heard he was charged by Turkey for trying to "white-wash" money in Turkey, which he got with his women-abusing illegal practices in Holland. He´s also charged with threatening people in Turkey. Is this news in Turkey, in the papers or anything?

He is a common petty criminal (adi suçlu?), a pimp who supposedly beats and exploits women and that wouldn´t get him in the papers. Maybe a small report in the 3rd page or somehing. I think Dutch media emphasizes this because they let him out and because he poses a threat to tourists.

Yağmur is used by Turks. I know some with this name.

Yaghmur Khan is also an historic name.

I vaugely remember the "Yaghmur Khan" name in a scientific publication as the name of someone from Pakistan. So I guess the name is also used in Pakistan/Afganistan.

If you google Şaban Baran (surely the meaning of his name or where it comes from is totally irrelevant) you will find several reports of him in the Turkish press - referring to him as a ´Prostitution Baron´. Obviously I can´t understand them all but they are definitely linking him to crimes against women.  

I guess an attempt to kill someone is also in Turkey not categorised as ´petty´......

 The poor child having this man as a father, but i am sure  this child was exploited even before it was born. Let hope this man get his just desserts and the child never find out what an evil man their father is.

The guy has got nerves! When in Dutch prison his bank accounts and assets were frozen and now, escaped, he demands he gets his money back!