Good for you gokuyum, at least you reached what i said after a while...

 You misundertood me again. According to documents even some Jews and some Christians believe it is on Judi Mountain. Maybe by saying Ararat Torah mentions Judi Mountain. Shortly it must be found on Judi Mountain according to Quran not Ararat mountain. So this whole think is a fake according to Quran and by defending the opposite you are declaring Quran is wrong. Deal with it. You lost the discussion. Be brave enought to admit defeath. Don´t make wordplays. I showed you many documents. Last document was a killer. ( http://www.testimony-magazine.org/back/sep2001/benson2.pdf) Accept the defeat honestly. I am defending Quran as an agnostic but you try to prove it wrong. What a weird world.

You actually dont know what you say. I dont defend anything and where did i declare Quran is wrong? Again hallucination?I just said Quran does not tell exactly what al judi is, people interpret this as mount Judi, many Islamic scholars say the same, do they declare Quran is wrong? Shorly it can be on today´s mount Judi according to some scholars but according to some it  is not clear where it was rested.

Lastly gokuyum, sorry to say but it seems you dont know anything about the subject. It can be clearly understood from the quotes in your post, how can a follower of science put those here as a quote? Besides there was no discussion because you were unable to answer any of my questions except quoting some nondescript heresays here.  In my opinion you as a big follower of science should stay away from this kind of topics otherwise yourself damage your forever science charisma here badly...

 Don´t make me laugh 

 I don´t know where Nuh´s ark landed on. But I know for sure that Science has nothing to do with religions. If you think quoting things from the documents you find here and there is a scientific method, you are terribly wrong then.

I don´t believe such an ark has ever existed. I don´t believe you can find it on Judi Mountain or on Ararat Mountain. It is impossible to exist such an ark. Every pair of animals in an ark. Is it possible? I say long live science because only science can show us the facts. But I respect your beliefs. I am surprized how Muslims can defend it is on Mount Ararat. I showed documents but they believe what they believe. One day when  this ark thing is explained as a fake, I think they will make wordplays and say I never believed it. The main problem of most people they don´t argue with documents. They underestimate documents and one who argues with documents. They say can´t you express yourself with your own sentences. Yes i can but it will take me nowhere untill i talk with proofs. I use quotes in my discussions to end them quickly. I don´t like talking based on my ass. I am not a scientist also. I only love science. Some people try to insult me saying I am a bad science man. But they even don´t respect good scientists. They see them destroyers of world. So how can I discuss with them? They insult everything. All they do is insulting with their assumptions. I explain them facts patiently but all i get at the and is a laughter. I will not discuss anymore. Because you make every discussion a personal matter. You don´t want anybody to criticize you. You want people to say you are always right. Some of you blame westerners and try to show us like angels, some of you insult gypsies and expect to be appreciated some of you curse science and want nobody say anything. Be more open minded. Appreciate opposite ideas. I dont know what is wrong with you. I will never discuss with you. Have a nice day.

 Should we go down on our knees before you and begging to be forgiven? You sound like a little boy saying, "everyone blames me". You really don´t know what are you talking about. You say, "you don´t want anybody to criticize you". How do you like to be criticized? Shouldn´t we approach others with criticism in the same manner in which we would like to be criticized? I hate to bring a debate to a personal level. It is clear that you see no objection in doing so.

Coming back to the ark. You are free whether to belive or not. But how can you say, "one day when this ark thing is explained as fake". You are even not aware of the difference between faith and science. If I am muslim and believe in Quran, and if Quran says the ark exists, how could you make me believe otherwise? Science requires answer while faith does not. You are constantly talking about Science, but, please don´t be offended, you don´t know any about it.

I agree, actually gokuyum´s last post deserves a good reply but i wont do it after scalpel´s balanced post. No need to say more...

Here´s the official website with pictures.

http://www.noahsarksearch.net/eng/

I liked the pics of huge chambers made of huge partly fossilized timbers.